Posted on 08/24/2005 3:54:04 AM PDT by ovrtaxt
You have to admit that the OKC bombing caused the FBI to assess home-grown terrorism through militias as a bigger risk than al-qaeda terrorists.
It caused them to direct their efforts elsewhere and made them blind to the islamics.
Would have been a good strategic move by al-qaeda to get McVeigh and McNicols to carry out the attack.
Carolyn
Also, when looking at this photo (below) as one poster stated: why is there no bomb crater after destruction of this magnitude? IMHO, I would think the FBI building would have deflected a tremendous shock wave outward initially causing even more damage to surrounding buildings, even though a couple of buildings were severely damaged (The bar & grill and water building).
Also, I believe that the damage to the Murrah building to be way too extensive to be caused by one medium sized rental truck filled with ammonium nitrate and fuel oil. That type of bomb does not have the burn rate strong enough to damage a building like that and is mainly used for excavation work, and if it did by some unknown forces, many other older buildings would have been leveled across the street. Also, the blast damage on the building looks like lower floors were imploded to cause the building to fall. The roof of the Murrah is scorched too but no other buildings in the area show this.
One final piece of info and seems to be true:
KILLED TERRY YEAKEY? - by Pat Shannan
Most people today believe someone other than James Earl Ray shot Martin Luther King. They have judged the facts, not the standard news media spin. Someday the world opinion will do an about-face and swing in favor of another unjustly convicted man, Tim McVeigh.
If AP and the talking heads would only report the truth about ANFO and its impotency, most of the thinking public would have to conclude that Tim McVeigh could not be guilty of murdering anyone. This is already a known fact, but the media are suppressing it. Contrary to news reports, the persons found guilty could not have been solely responsible. An Oklahoma City police sergeant became aware of this before anyone else, apparently during the first hour of rescue. He paid for that discovery with his life.
Terry Yeakey was a giant of a man with a heart as big as the rest of him. I wish I had known him. He was a crusader for truth. Whenever his name is mentioned, I think of the news photo of him sprinting down NW 5th Street toward the Murrah Building on another of the many rescue missions he performed that ugly day. In his blue uniform, he tends to remind us of a NFL linebacker about to put the sack on an unfortunate quarterback, but this is quickly overridden by the grave concern on the face of a policeman in a panic to save lives.
After numerous private investigators produced irrefutable evidence of multiple explosions, unexploded bombs being hauled away after the fact, and the complete and total incapability of an Ammonium Nitrate Fuel Oil (ANFO) bomb to cause the cause the kind of devastation seen in downtown Oklahoma City, a giant government cover-up became obvious.
Only a couple of hours into the rescue, Sgt. Terrence Yeakey became painfully aware of something disturbing. Did he somehow figure out that the building had been blown from the inside and that the news reports were baloney? Did he overhear a strange conversation from some of the many ATF agents who were on the scene sooner than they should have been? Whatever it was, Terry was upset. He called his wife that morning crying - the big ol' Teddy Bear of a guy was crying - and saying repeatedly, ""It's not true. It's not what they are saying. It didn't happen that way." Terry Yeakey may have been the first to discover the sham.
He ran back and forth into that concrete mess of bricks and mortar all day long and continued beyond exhaustion, far into the night. He scraped and crawled and dug until his fingers bled and then kept digging some more. In a cadre of heroes that day, Terry's performance was outstanding. On May 11th, the following year he was scheduled to receive the Medal of Valor from the Oklahoma City Police Department. He never got it. He was murdered on May 8, 1996, in the country - two and a half miles west of the El Reno Penitentiary.
The official report said "Suicide," and anyone who believes an ANFO bomb destroyed Murrah and the other surrounding buildings will believe this. According to the report, Terry slashed himself eleven times on both forearms before cutting his own throat twice near the jugular vein. Then, apparently seeking even a more private place to die, he crawled another mile of rough terrain away from his car and climbed a fence, before shooting himself in the head with a small caliber revolver. What appeared to be rope burns on his neck, handcuff bruises to his wrists, and muddy grass imbedded in his slash wounds strongly indicated that he had some help in traversing this final distance.
The bullet's entrance wound was in the right temple, above the eye. It went through the policeman's head and exited in the area of the left cheek, near the bottom of the ear lobe line. The trajectory was from a 40-45 degree angle above his head. There were no powder burns. No weapon was ever reported as found at the scene, but independent investigators speculated that had Yeakey shot himself with standard police issue - a Glock 9mm or a .357 Magnum - his head would have been far more destroyed than it apparently was.
One of the last people Officer Yeakey talked to was a friend who knew he was on a mission of private investigation. Terry had told him that he was on his way to El Reno to check out something but first he had to shake the FBI agents who were following him. He was traveling in his private automobile, and witnesses said later that the inside looked like someone had "butchered a hog" on the front seat.
Source:
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/okc_coverup.htm
Whatever happened, there seems to be a lot of unanswered questions about the OKC bombing.
Back to my original post (#6) there has never been a picture of the blast crater the truck bomb created.........time magazine had a DRAWING showing the blast crater, but no pictures........as a matter of fact, a TV helicopter was in the air and shot video before all reporters and camera's were removed from the scene, and this video clearly shows 4 people standing in front of the building, in the street.........no crater....sooooo..how come the gov't has created the crater story????? there was no truck bomb!!!!!!!!! it was an inside job. This was a government building, and everyone was at work, except for 2 offices of people, the FBI and the ATF.....they knew something...
IIRC, the Gorelick "Wall" was erected in 1995. Coincidence? NOT.
Michael Savage has been all over Dees lately.
Dees is the creepy (IMO) lawyer who worked so hard to get that ranch in AZ taken away from the rightful owner, the owner who had stopped those illegal aliens on his property, and then the ranch was awarded to the illegal immigrants, just last week.
A travesty of justice.
Ha, sorry, hadn't read far enough, re: Dees and the AZ ranch decision!
Thanks for the ping!
Bears repeating. Couldn't agree more.
The vertical beams were not snapped off at the third floor- they ended there at a horizontal transfer beam.
The beam was held up by three big verticals that went all the way down.
When one of the big verticals was pulverized (it was 16 feet from a big explosion) the transfer beam sagged and caused the other two verticals to fail by shear forces- so the transfer beam came down, taking with it all of the verticals resting on it, and the flooring connected to the beams. This started a progressive collapse.
The oft-cited Partin report did not mention transfer beams at all, but focused on the fact that there was no trace of beams from the third floor down; he assumed that they had been pulverized when in fact they were never there. This construction technique is fairly common. It allows a building to have a big open lobby a couple floors high without being cluttered up with beams.
As for ANFO not having any punch, I believe that's the explosive used in the Daisy Cutter BLU/82 and MOAB munitions, as well as demolition and cratering blocks. Also look up the bombing of Sterling Hall, that was ANFO too.
Also, the linked report has schematic drawings of the crater, but as everyone points out, no pictures. I wonder where they all are?
You mean CHINA didn't want to start a war at the time.
http://www.health.state.ok.us/PROGRAM/injury/Summary/Bomb/Bombing2.pdf
RSmithOpt, I did a quick search and could not find preblast photos. But, I dug up this interesting report on injuries as a direct result of the blast, and it describes injuries in the surrounding buildings.
He asks folks to contact Rohrabacher and also Arlen Spector of the Senate Judiciary committee to prevent the FBI from claiming an "ongoing investigation" to keep the clean documents out of the judge's hands.
Doyle has been given a copy of the redacted documents and promises they will be in the near future.
"The Third Terrorist" Bummp!
(Finished in 3 very busy days, coudn't put it down.)
Slick the Slacker wanted no part of a middle-east connection to the OKC bombing!
That would have meant his Know-Nothing, Do-Nothing Administration would have actually had to do something and we all know that would have interrupted his lewinskis.
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