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America's disastrous 'military option': Iran
International Herald Tribune, via Tehran Times (regime's paper) ^ | August 30, 2005 | Amin Saikal

Posted on 08/29/2005 2:35:19 PM PDT by F14 Pilot

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To: F14 Pilot

See #14 - Pukin Dog nailed it. Lying Liberal Media are cowards.


21 posted on 08/29/2005 3:59:50 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
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To: claptrap

They want nuclear power, right? So what you are trying to say is give it to them a few kilotons at a time.


22 posted on 08/29/2005 4:03:58 PM PDT by bbenton
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To: F14 Pilot
President George W. Bush has reacted by declaring all options open, including military action, which has drawn a stiff rebuke not only from Tehran, but also from Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder of Germany, one of America's allies.

Now there's a curious statement...I wouldn't consider Germany an American ally...Germany seems to side mostly with our enemies...

23 posted on 08/29/2005 4:03:59 PM PDT by Iscool
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Well this is a facile bit of fluff.

Who says a ground war has to be march on Tehran followed by occupying the whole freaking country? If we established a beach head at the Straits of Hormuz, we could dig in "like Alabama ticks" and slaughter the jihadist idiots charging into our prepared defenses.

And this guy overestimates Iran's naval power--I figure they could last a week against the USN and USAF.

That having been said, the Iranians could make a lot of trouble for us in Iraq. And I personally want to keep the good will of the Iranian people.

The other big problem is that the International Left has poisoned the waters in regard to dealing with the Axis of Evil with the use of force.

24 posted on 08/29/2005 4:07:02 PM PDT by Lysandru
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To: Pukin Dog

Including taking out any known and suspected nuclear sites, army barracks, etc...

And then just pack up and go home...No ground troops...No war...Just send a message...


25 posted on 08/29/2005 4:14:13 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Ostlandr

Bttt!

Maybe that would have stopped the mysterious disappearance of the WMD.


26 posted on 08/29/2005 4:26:30 PM PDT by dervish (tagline for rent, inquire within)
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To: F14 Pilot

bttt


27 posted on 08/29/2005 4:27:19 PM PDT by dennisw (***)
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To: Grampa Dave

God bless President Reagan. RIP.


28 posted on 08/29/2005 4:30:56 PM PDT by dervish (tagline for rent, inquire within)
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To: F14 Pilot

Libs out of their ever loving minds.


29 posted on 08/29/2005 4:32:42 PM PDT by hershey
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To: claptrap

Oh, no, no no! We simply wait until the moment the Iranian nuclear reactor goes hot- at which time it will suffer a regrettable "accident"- something involving a mushroom cloud. Stealth bomber = plausible deniability.


30 posted on 08/29/2005 4:53:32 PM PDT by Ostlandr (NeopaganNeocon)
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To: Redwarrior

Heck, adjust that course slightly to the sourth, and continue straight through to India.

It's time for punitive action against Iran. Bomb, bomb, bomb, until they give up.


31 posted on 08/29/2005 5:27:48 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Gentlemen may cry, "Peace! Peace!" -- but there is no peace. - Patrick Henry)
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To: dervish

Amen, Brother.

Compare President Reagan's response to Jimmy Carter's response when our Embassy was seized by the Iranian Jihadist Thugs.


32 posted on 08/29/2005 5:33:32 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: F14 Pilot
Germany, one of America's allies

errr, perhaps once a long time ago, but not anymore...

33 posted on 08/29/2005 6:25:29 PM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: F14 Pilot
From what I've gathered, the Iranians would have a substantial 'fifth column' to deal with. Which, in a way, would hamper any massive attack from us, since the woule be on our side.

I can't for the life of me understand why we haven't aided the dissidents.

34 posted on 08/29/2005 6:39:02 PM PDT by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: Pukin Dog; F14 Pilot; Grampa Dave; BOBTHENAILER; nuconvert; devolve; potlatch; ntnychik; SAMWolf; ..

I agree with each of your points in your 14.

The article phrasing is an echo of the predictions of 50,000 body bags after fighting the battle-hardened Republican Guard.

Pre-war air strikes took out Saddam's air defense radar grid and command and control capabilities.

The article smacks of whistling past the graveyard altogether with a paper deterrent.

"Ooooh, you don't want to make Iran mad--Iran might send suicide commandos--" As though they are not doing that now.

"Iran might sink some ships to block the flow of oil."

Make our day, Khamenei and Ahmedinejad--you drive the cost of our gasoline up another dime and soccer moms will enlist to take you out.

If Iran were secure in its "alliance" with Tony Blair, Jacques Chirac, and Gerhard Schroeder against the cowboy at 1600, this press release attempt to dissuade our military option would not be needed.

Iran faces an 85%+ Strongly Disapprove at home and a U.S. commander-in-chief who is not flinching.

What it has left is hiding behind the Franco-Germanic Anti-American Bund.

Which bought Saddam fourteen months of freedom, a period of spider-hole fugitive status, and a trial for crimes against humanity.

Can the Revolutionary Guard fight the American military machine and its own people simultaneously, a two-front war on its own turf?

Can the Islamic Republic fight an enemy with global reach and state-of-the-art technology while its people watch for every exposed flank, bitter from years of repression?

If the Ayatollah felt the answer to be yes, there would be no need for the extant article.

The Parliament which last September chanted "Death to America! Death to Israel!" will be bits of protoplasm amidst the rubble and their fanatic leaders will be issuing defiant videotape to Aljazeera from an undisclosed location when the secular democratic hurricane makes landfall in Tehran, its strong points/centers of gravity having been destroyed by cruise missiles, JDAMs, and a new line of bunker busters.

No, we will not present targets for "insurgents"--the regime will be said targets for indigenous "insurgents": students, women, mad as hell.

The inmates will slay their wardens once the walls are breeched and the towers are down.

There will be no "ground war", no U.S. occupation.

There will be another democratic ally in the state formerly known as the Islamic Republic.


35 posted on 08/29/2005 6:39:33 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo; SJackson

btttttttttttttttttttttttttt


36 posted on 08/29/2005 7:22:44 PM PDT by bitt ('But once the shooting starts, a plan is just a guess in a party dress.' Michael Yon)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

I do!


37 posted on 08/29/2005 7:41:35 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot
I don't generally voice in on these maybe threads, but this time I will...

It is unfortunate, that America has to give in on this one and the Iranians know it. If the US flexes muscle with Iran, the entire arab nations will rise up. Hey? Where did we here this before??.... U-Oh...

38 posted on 08/29/2005 7:47:05 PM PDT by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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To: F14 Pilot

As far as a land war goes geography is on Iran's side. Secondly, we cannot even handle Iraq and some want to add Iran. This seems foolish.


39 posted on 08/29/2005 7:52:45 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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Make our day, Khamenei and Ahmedinejad--you drive the cost of our gasoline up another dime and soccer moms will enlist to take you out. You owe me a keyboard.
40 posted on 08/29/2005 8:20:05 PM PDT by Amadeo
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