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First chimp fossil unearthed
Nature Magazine ^ | 31 August 2005 | Michael Hopkin

Posted on 08/31/2005 11:35:50 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

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To: PatrickHenry
Yes in a companion piece I read in Scientific American, it was reported that the stains on the teeth were consistent with those of modern cigarette smoking chimps...and it was extrapolated from the smoking hypothesis, that these paleo-chimps roller skated, and wore diapers.....(snicker).

All in all an interesting article PH....I just couldn't help myself
21 posted on 08/31/2005 11:55:36 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein)
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To: Admin Moderator
Why was this thread moved to chat? It's science news, from a highly reputable source. If it was moved in error (or somehow posted to the wrong forum), could you please move it back to the News/Activism forum?
22 posted on 08/31/2005 11:57:41 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: Admin Moderator

Thank you.


23 posted on 08/31/2005 12:02:24 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: PatrickHenry
The original ping seems not to have worked.

Maybe it mutated and evolved into another species of ping. Perhaps by a virus or spyware.

......;^) (/pro-evo satire)

24 posted on 08/31/2005 12:03:27 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: PatrickHenry

Cheeta the Chimp says "Ooga, Ooga!"


25 posted on 08/31/2005 12:07:07 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: PatrickHenry
I'm still going to make occasional use of my personal punk-eek example even though a chimp fossil has turned up East of the Rift. Could have been planted by Carl Baugh to discredit us.
26 posted on 08/31/2005 12:12:51 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: VadeRetro
I'm still going to make occasional use of my personal punk-eek example even though a chimp fossil has turned up East of the Rift.

Sure. Your example is good. This chimp could have been brought from far away as somebody's pet for all we know.

27 posted on 08/31/2005 12:15:47 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: PatrickHenry

By what method were the teeth dated?
Article doesn't say.

I presume, they were dated by the surrounding strata.
Not enough material for lab testing?


28 posted on 08/31/2005 12:16:55 PM PDT by Stark_GOP
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To: PatrickHenry
The discovery that chimps were living in semi-arid conditions as well as in the jungle seems to blow apart the simplistic idea that it was the shift to savannah that led to humans walking upright. The teeth are around 500,000 years old,

Bipedalism occured at least 4 million years ago. It's a simplistic idea to suggest that a chimp passing through 3 1/2 million years later somehow blows away the "shift to savannah" hypothesis!

29 posted on 08/31/2005 12:31:05 PM PDT by shuckmaster
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To: dead
"The chimps were actually the masters of humans back then. Oh wait, that was the future not the past. Yikes!"

Ceasar was supposed to overthrow the humans in 1991. Were over due!!


30 posted on 08/31/2005 12:39:43 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: PatrickHenry
First chimp fossil, of course, not first chimp fossil, which would be the more important find.
31 posted on 08/31/2005 12:44:04 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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32 posted on 08/31/2005 12:46:21 PM PDT by evets (God bless president Bush!)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
If you're going to be picky, it's the difference between:
1. Fossil of first chimp, or
2. First fossil of chimp.
Gotta get that adjective first positioned next to its noun, with no room for misinterpretation.
33 posted on 08/31/2005 12:50:27 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: evets

I bet you burned out your PhotoShop with this one, LOL!


34 posted on 08/31/2005 12:51:56 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (LET ME DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP, ALEX KOZINSKI FOR SCOTUS)
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To: edcoil
Can't be right, they became humans not todays chimps.

Huh? What is this supposed to mean?

Don't they understand evolution.

Probably far better than you.
35 posted on 08/31/2005 12:52:21 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: evets

Thanks for adding to my browser's "block images from" list.


36 posted on 08/31/2005 12:52:36 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: evets

Helen hasn't looked that good in 500,000 years.


37 posted on 08/31/2005 12:57:26 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: PatrickHenry; Doctor Stochastic
I spit on and otherwise deride your nit-picking abilities.

1. Fossil of first chimp, or
2. First fossil of chimp.

Neither. It is unlikely that this specimen was the first chimp, or the first chimp to be fossilized, but it is the first fossilized chimp to be found. Door number 3, Monty:

3. First discovery of a fossilized chimp.

38 posted on 08/31/2005 12:57:36 PM PDT by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: PatrickHenry

Well, it's only an adverb.
Only, well, it's an adverb.
It's only a well adverb.
It's only an adverb well.
Only, it's an adverb well.
Only, it's a well adverb.


39 posted on 08/31/2005 12:59:06 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic; general_re
What a difference a hyphen can make:

Man-eating shark killed.
Man eating shark killed.

40 posted on 08/31/2005 1:09:05 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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