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Poll: Public divided on evolution
Miami Herald ^ | 9-1-05 | Will Lester

Posted on 09/01/2005 1:00:04 PM PDT by joyspring777

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To: Junior

We had a thread on this poll a day or two ago. I'm skipping this one unless you think it really needs a ping to the list.


21 posted on 09/01/2005 1:19:30 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: mlc9852

What's taught in science classes should be decided by the scientific community not the PTA..."Gravity: All in favor? All opposed?"


22 posted on 09/01/2005 1:20:14 PM PDT by Borges
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To: mlc9852

> You must not be very well acquainted with what creationists believe. Most believe the earth is probably older than 6,000 years ...

Some believe it's as old as 6,009 years!


23 posted on 09/01/2005 1:20:38 PM PDT by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
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To: Larry Lucido

Sounds like a lot of men. ;)


24 posted on 09/01/2005 1:22:10 PM PDT by pa mom
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To: mlc9852

Well if they can't get consensus on the theory, how are they going to teach it?


25 posted on 09/01/2005 1:23:02 PM PDT by NC28203
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To: NC28203
Do we include Greek creation stories?


Greek Creation Story

Before the beginning of the universe, there was nothing in existence until Chaos came into being. Who or what was Chaos was, the Greeks not really made clear. The Greeks usually associated Chaos as a male entity. Chaos could be personification of the abyss or void, a formless confusion.

Out of the void, came Nyx ("Night") and Erebus ("Darkness"). Also from Chaos--Eros ("Love"), Gaea ("Earth") and Tartarus came into being. It was Eros that made it possible for propagation between two beings – to produce offspring.

By her brother Erebus, Nyx became mother of Aether ("Upper Air") and Hemera ("Day"). This was the first sexual union. By herself, Nyx became mother of several abstract personifications: Thanatos ("Death"), Moros ("Doom"), Hypnos ("Sleep"), the Fates or Moerae and Nemesis.

Gaea, by herself, bore Uranus (Sky), Ourea (Mountains) and Pontus (Sea).

Gaea mated with her son Pontus and she became mother of two ancient sea-gods, Nereus and Phorcys, as well as Thaumas, Eurybia, and the sea monster Ceto.

Gaea married her other son, Uranus, and he became ruler of the universe. Gaea became the mother of the Titans, Hecatoncheires (Hundred-Handed) and Cyclops ("Wheel-eyed"). The birth of their children resulted in a war by the gods that lasted for generation.

Uranus became ruler of the universe after marrying his mother, Gaea. Uranus was the father of the three giant creatures with hundred hands and fifty heads, Briareus, Cottus and Gyges. These giants were known as the Hecatoncheires (Hundred-Handed). They were monstrous in size and strength. They were so ugly that Uranus hid them within their mother's body. Uranus probably did the same to his other three offspring known as the Cyclops. The Cyclopes were also giants, with a single eye in their foreheads. The three Cyclopes were named Arges, Brontes and Steropes. Imprisoning the six gigantic creatures within her body caused Gaea a great deal of pain.

The Titans were also his offspring, but they were smaller in size and fairer in looks. Unlike their ugly brethren they weren't imprisoned. Gaea was furious at the treatment of her earlier sons, so she appealed to her son, Cronus, youngest of the Titans, to overthrow her husband and his father.

At night, when Uranus was about to lay with his mother-wife (Gaea), Cronus castrated his father with an adamantine sickle and threw his father's genitals into the sea, near the island of Cythera. The Giants, Erinyes (Furies) and Meliae were born from the blood that fell on the ground, thereby impregnating her (Gaea). The Olympians would later fight the Giants, aided by the hero Heracles.

In the sea, the water began foaming around the severed genitals of Uranus. This foams drifted across vast distant of sea, before it reached the isle of Cyprus. From the foaming sea, Aphrodite, goddess of love, divinely beautiful and naked, sprang into being, already as fully grown young woman.

Waiting on the shore of Cyprus, Eros (Love) and Himerus (Desire) waited to greet her. The other gods paid honour to her. Aphrodite would later become the member of the Olympians, even though she was technically not an Olympian.

26 posted on 09/01/2005 1:23:55 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Is this a good tagline?)
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To: Borges

And what about when the "scientific community" doesn't agree? Flip a coin? Sounds fair.


27 posted on 09/01/2005 1:24:29 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: NC28203
Do you think there is a consensus on evolution? Or a lot of other subjects? I thought education was about different ideas and perspectives. Gosh, some of you people are so narrow-minded!
28 posted on 09/01/2005 1:26:07 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

I'm sure there are lots of Scientologists who take the 'Scien' part of their name quite seriously and would like to teach their own creation theories as well.


29 posted on 09/01/2005 1:26:58 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Coyoteman

"Foaming around the severed genitals of Uranus" bump.


30 posted on 09/01/2005 1:27:10 PM PDT by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: joyspring777

"I am a man! I am not a monkey!"


31 posted on 09/01/2005 1:27:14 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: mlc9852

What exactly qualifies a science teacher to discuss theology?


32 posted on 09/01/2005 1:27:27 PM PDT by Borges
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To: mlc9852

Well, generally a high school science class doesn't go into enough depth to address the varying theories in the mechanisms of evolution. Just a broad overview of the theory should suffice.


33 posted on 09/01/2005 1:28:08 PM PDT by Vive ut Vivas
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To: mlc9852

>>>You must not be very well acquainted with what creationists believe. Most believe the earth is probably older than 6,000 years but then truth doesn't really matter to evos, does it? Just keep your agenda out there.

So what you are saying is that we should teach the creation story, but it should be taught as literal truth?


34 posted on 09/01/2005 1:28:53 PM PDT by NC28203
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To: NC28203

Correction to post;
So what you are saying is that we should teach the creation story, but it should NOT be taught as literal truth?


35 posted on 09/01/2005 1:30:03 PM PDT by NC28203
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To: Borges

I agree - the validity of scientific theories shouldn't be up to a popular vote. Only God knows the truth and He has already spoken on the matter, so we KNOW that creation is the truth. That settles it in the mind of any intelligent person.


36 posted on 09/01/2005 1:31:44 PM PDT by BMIC
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To: joyspring777

I responded to the poll by saying 4 divided by 2, is 2.

And I'm sticking with it!


37 posted on 09/01/2005 1:33:30 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: BMIC
Only God knows the truth and He has already spoken on the matter, so we KNOW that creation is the truth. That settles it in the mind of any intelligent person.

Who did he speak to?

In other words, which creation story is the "correct" one?

38 posted on 09/01/2005 1:34:21 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: BMIC

>>>I agree - the validity of scientific theories shouldn't be up to a popular vote. Only God knows the truth and He has already spoken on the matter, so we KNOW that creation is the truth. That settles it in the mind of any intelligent person.

So we should ignore all of the scientific evidence that the Earth is older than 6,000 years of age?


39 posted on 09/01/2005 1:39:00 PM PDT by NC28203
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To: Vive ut Vivas

Designed Universe retreads are trying to make a comeback. Most of these folks will probably be rebanned shortly once the AMs start tracking IP addresses.


40 posted on 09/01/2005 1:39:54 PM PDT by Junior (Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
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