Yep. Here's proof.
Posted on 09/01/2005 1:00:04 PM PDT by joyspring777
Should geography be taught based on majority opinion? The majority of Americans can't find Kansas on a map. Should we, therefore, take Kansas off the US map?
Actually, there is among biologists. No one believes that humans appeared billions of years ago.
and what scientific poll was that? Done by who?
Post it or pull it.
Atheism would be flatly telling kids that God doesn't exist. which teachers shouldn't do. The scientific view should be Agnostic.
Evolution is not different than Creation.
They are competing belief systems as to how the world came to be as we know it today. THAT is why they should both be taught as equal theories or possibilities.
Discussion and research (D&R) on a lower school level makes for a more level playing field for these competing schools of thought. D&R will make for a better informed and educated populace.
Absence of theology is not a theology.
You may be talking about the majority of students.
This poll is a poll of adults, not kids. I don't believe a majority of ADULTS could not find Kansas.
If so, publish the details of the poll and from whom?
Put up the numbers and source, or pull the data from the discussion.
Hogwash. What is your definition of consensus?
I know biologists who don't, and many other contacts who would be connected to many others.
You are one who refuses to recognize that SH is, in fact, a theology.
Deny, Deny, deny? That does not work anymore. Supreme Court in the late 40s identified it as a religion.
I don't believe that you know any biologists who believe that the fossil record doesn't describe the general time frames for the appearance and disappearance of species on this planet.
While its true that creationists will acquire degrees to attempt to support their arguments, they have yet to answer what they think the fossil record is beyond, "it's just a bunch of rocks".
If you can find a reference, I'll check it out. But I've never found one.
Actually, that's a myth (and it wasn't even the 40's)
>>>a lot of schools (my children attended) do teach creationism along with evolution.
Just curious. When presented with evidence that dinosaurs lived million of years before Man existed on this planet in the evolution part of the course and the idea that Man and dinosaurs existed togther in the garden of Eden, were any doubts raised in your children's minds about the validity of other parts of the Bible? It seems that teaching creation theory in science class might actually hurt one's faith when there is so much more evidence for the former vs. the latter.
Actually, the theory of evolution is rather narrow in its scope. It deals only with biological development and diversification. It doesn't have anything to say about, for example, plate tectonics or the formation of hurricanes.
You seem to be suggesting, on the other hand, that creationism covers everything about how the world as we know it came to be. Is there a competing creationist theory to, for example, plate tectonics and the formation of hurricanes?
What similarities do you see?
Yep. Here's proof.
Not in a science curricula, because creationism is not at all scientifcally founded. There are many creation stories, from many indigeneous cultures. Teach them all, if you want, in a comparative religion course.
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But true freedom would allow that one person who believes that the earth was created on the backs of turtles to be accommodated.
You want only evolution.
CS/ID folk tend to be more inclusive in the arena of ideas.
Is that the consensus of these threads? That the CS/IDers want all creation stories in the schools? Most of the responses I get to the creation stories I post is that they are not "real" creation because they are not written down early, not verified by archaeology, not detailed enough, not specific enough, etc. In other words, not the bible version. (Not our kind of creation!)
Further, most CS/ID sites are well-populated with quotations from the bible. I can only conclude that the creation story the CS/ID folks want is the one in the bible, and that the ID movement is a political one designed to "wedge" (I prefer Trojan horse) religious teaching into the schools.
Lets see some cites from peer reviewed sources.
Nope. I am sorry...no myth.
You are referring to the ruling in the early 50s, which some have referred to in prior Creation/Evolution posts. That was significant, but the 40's reference was clearer.
I find it fascinating that folks that hold to liberal, meaning Non-conservative, positions LOVE to quote the authority of the SCOTUS, but not when it cuts the other way.
I will research it further, as I had printed reference in a publication in my library, and another gentleman I spoke to two years ago recited the case and year from memory.
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