Posted on 09/26/2005 6:16:11 AM PDT by SpringheelJack
Yeah let's hear it for Mr. Bonds. He doesn't mind if he breaks Babe's record because Babe is a white guy. But he would fel bad if he broke Aaron's record because he claims he has a soft spot for his fellow black players. I don't know if anyone heard him say this (numerous times), but it disgusted me. I cannot believe that people like up to this grade A Piece of S***. His name doesn't belong in any record book.
Bonds will never be RUTH... and that is just something he can't accept...
RUTH DOMINATED his era.. he didn't just hit home runs, he dominated every aspect of the game during his time... something that Bonds can't do, and Ruth did it without the aid of roids.
I am sure that during his career he got plenty of rascist hate mail. However, maybe Bonds is a bigot as well?
Adjusted OPS does compare you to your peers. In fact, that's the whole point of the stat. I agree that Ruth had more big seasons than Bonds has had, though Bonds's best years have featured OPS's (1.381, 1.422), slugging pct.(.863), and on-base percentages (.582, .609) which Ruth never matched.
Being a 7-time MVP is pretty dominating. It is hard to compare players of eras that were so different. No one will ever know to what extent steroids factors in in the modern era.
I was just a kid when Aaron broke the Home Run record, and while there were some nasty comments and threats, they generally came from wackos. Aaron had a good reputation as a ballplayer and as a person. Of course, it was a different time, without 24 hour cable sports channels and radio stations. As much as I love baseball, the constant chatter and analysis doesn't add much enjoyment for me.
Sorry, but compaired to his peers, Bonds is not remotely a Ruth of his age... Ruth would have as many home runs in a season as entire TEAMS he played against.
Bonds is a good player, a jackass, but a good player.. but he does not remotely overshadow his peers the way Ruth did.
We may never know the impact of roids, but we can definately tell that that scrawny guy who played for the Pirates all those years ago, isn't the same as the roided up nearly 40 year old that plays for SF today.... Bonds isn't where he is without modern chemistry... and even there he isn't head and shoulders above his peers.
At least in MY book.
I agree, I enjoy PLAYING sports... but I am not a huge fan of watching sports... particularly at the professional level. Yes it is nice once in a while to watch people at the top of a game perform, but its a ONCE in a while thing... and all the talk about the subject is just white noise.
3 hours a day on talk radio about nothing but sports is comical to me, then you get into the sport centers and the sports talk shows that take up hours upon hours of bandwidth every day, and its just is comical. (I find it comparable to the never ending coverate of hollyweird).
These subjects are not remotely life threatening, and it awes me that so many folks waist so much of their lives just following sports.... and what I find the most comical is the ones who spend the absolute MOST time following em, are usually the most obese folks around who look like they haven't actually gotten off their arse and played a sport (other than perhaps bowling or horseshoes) in decades.
If I am going to watch a baseball game, I'm far more likely to go watch the Pioneer League "Wild Things" in Washington PA over the Pittsburgh Pirates downtown..... not only is it far cheaper, even with gas... but the folks on the field play to play.
Actually, he is. Ruth's best year, relative to his peers, was 1920 when he hit .376/.532/.847 in a league which went .296/.361/.407. In Bonds's best year, 2002, he hit .370/.582/.799 in a league which went .255/.327/.406.
Bonds's performance, measured against his peers, is superior.
Those numbers are, of course, batting average, on-base percentage, and slugging percentage.
I respect Hank Aaron tremedously. He sttod up for the game he loved and played in a time of whirling bigotry and racism. Barry Bonds might get some hate mail sure. But to compare bigotry in todays game compared to then is nonsense. I don't believe whites to be the main class of bigots in todays society, but that is a whole nother subject.
No, hes not.
All that shows is that on average, players are of lower quality today than of Ruth's age, because of constant expansion of the league, beyond the talent pool available. Something I've been saying for a long time.
This means, Ruth performed BETTER than his peers, in a league filled with BETTER average players.
And lets not forget that Ruth's career and domination was not all about offense as well.... What's Bond's Career ERA?....
Bonds is a good player, but he is not remotely the complete, dominant all around player that Ruth was. I know it eats Bonds alive to have to accept it, but it is reality.
Ruth=7
Bonds=0
Hasn't he always played in the National League?
From what I've read about his opinions, Barry Bonds is the biggest racist in the game today. He's the epitome of what's gone wrong with baseball.
Yes, Barry Bonds has always played for NL teams (Pirates and Giants) but I think the rule for interleague play is that the home team's league rules apply, so a National League club playing an American League team at that team's ballpark would have a designated hitter for the game.
There's no doubt Bonds' last 4 years have been amazing, almost as amazing as gaining 40 pounds of muscle and 2 hat sizes at age 40. Sure you can cherry pick a few years, but Ruth's all-time OPS is 1.1636, Bonds is a distant fourth place all time, with no prayer of coming anywhere close.
Ruth - 10 trips to the World Series, with 7 rings.
Pitched 29 consecutive scoreless innings in WS.
Bonds - zero trips.
I pray every day he is outed for his steroid use, he is a smug, obnoxious troll, who cheated on his first wife dumped her and the kids, complained about child support payments; and then had the gaul to parade that same child around all summer to shield him from the press and divert attention. Bonds stopped playing so the steroids could be purged from his body before being tested. I hope there is always a star next to his name in any record book, he is a fraud and a liar and is now playing the race card.
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