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KID CANNABIS (How a chubby pizza-delivery boy from Idaho became a drug kingpin)
Rolling Stone Magazine ^ | October 6th, 2005 | By MARK BINELLI

Posted on 10/06/2005 5:59:44 PM PDT by A CA Guy

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To: sine_nomine

Could be! LOL


41 posted on 10/06/2005 6:58:47 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Huck
Hell, we all know ppl who totally lose it and do any drug you put in front of them. Then again, we also know ppl who smoke a joint on Sunday in the parking lot of the NFL football game just like he was having a six pack.

I don't.

42 posted on 10/06/2005 7:00:27 PM PDT by It's me
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To: A CA Guy
Shucks up here in Cow der lane, Wisconsin We smoke the occasional carp once in a while thats about it... Never heard of nobody being shot over that though...

Cept for this one time...ole Herman Pembacher was milking Nummie Frey's prize Holstein.. Bridgette..or was Bridgette his wife?

Kinda hard to tell sometimes after a long winter...

Anyway..I'm pretty sure.. somebody got shot...not really sure why though..come to think on it..

Smokin' Carp is work...thats for sure...hard to keep em lit.

43 posted on 10/06/2005 7:03:18 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: sine_nomine

Read every word of this story and before my children were born, it could have been me to some degree. Especially the stupid parts. Didn't do pot when my kids were young but did again when they got older. When the granddaughter came I wanted clear senses at all times for this beautiful gift I had been given. Barely made it through the 70's alive and now live the life of a grandpa with an unceasing sense of profound gratitude for every moment.


44 posted on 10/06/2005 7:09:08 PM PDT by badpacifist (<tagline expired>)
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To: joesnuffy

I've heard songs about the practice before, was it by the Carp'enters?


45 posted on 10/06/2005 7:12:01 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

My grandchildren fill me with a joyful stupor each and every day. I smile just thinking about them.

I hate to offend the stoners and Libertarians, but I find it alarming that so many glibly talk about their present or past drug use. Ben Stein just did in a recent column in American Spectator. I like his writing a lot, but that disturbed me. It is another message of, "You can be a wild druggie in your youth and be famous in middle age." Some people don't make it to middle age, or they spent it in a trailer park or prison.


46 posted on 10/06/2005 7:12:51 PM PDT by sine_nomine (CBS' Mary Mapes: "It dawned on me that I was present at the birth of a political jihad.")
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To: A CA Guy
The Coeur D'Alene police department knew about Nate and his crew, but the cops were too busy to bother with pot dealers. "They were back-burner cases," says Detective Morgan. "We were doing three meth labs a week. We don't hold a back seat to anybody with our meth labs."

Yoicks. One of my best friends from highschool lives in Coeur D'Alene.

Nate pleaded guilty to five of the fifty-nine counts against him and received a twelve-year sentence; ten years of the sentence is a mandatory minimum and not subject to parole. Giovanni Mendiola, by contrast, pleaded guilty to the murder of Brendan Butler and received a life sentence with a possibility of parole in eight years.

Oh, yah, that makes sense. Send the murderer to jail for eight years and the kid pushing marijuana to jail for ten...

47 posted on 10/06/2005 7:16:05 PM PDT by Amity
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To: A CA Guy
People who want to kill or rape their mothers are doing it anyway as well, but we have the will to enforce the law.

Ahhh, the truth at last : ) You equate someone taking a toke after work with them murdering their mothers.

So from where I stand in comparison to your drug usage, you should be locked up, with a sentence equivalent to murder? I think the only drug I do is caffeine, and infrequently at that, (chocolates).

Do you believe that all laws should be enforced equally? Do you believe that all laws are correct?

48 posted on 10/06/2005 7:25:00 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: sine_nomine

What to do with people who don't get born with a whole lot of common sense? Some think that as long as they claim to be responsible for themselves that it's OK to do ANYTHING they want to.
That isn't responsible behavior, that is irresponsible behavior that is anarchy-like at times.


49 posted on 10/06/2005 7:27:12 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Amity
Sure, the people PUSHING/Dealing lots of marijuana have in at least a passive sense been killed many more people than a mere murderer.

All the people a dealer gets addicted and into other stuff would be responsible for the murders down the line, the destruction of families, the violence and should expect to pay in jail.

If you are a minor user you get a ticket, if you are a major dealer, throw away the keys as you would a multiple killer for sure. It's connected to so much death we have to hold the criminals responsible.
50 posted on 10/06/2005 7:33:24 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

Just another modern day story of how keeping marijuana illegal allowed someone to build their own crime empire.


51 posted on 10/06/2005 7:36:01 PM PDT by Quick1
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To: Lester Moore
If pot were legalized all the violence & gangsterism that is connected with it would evaporate.

Right--and that explains why we never hear of alcohol related crime and violence.

52 posted on 10/06/2005 7:39:09 PM PDT by TNdandelion
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To: headsonpikes

>>>"Pretty much nails it"<<<

Thank you, wasn't difficult at all.


53 posted on 10/06/2005 7:39:10 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: MadManDan
Pot is certainly more natural and more harmless than booze. Period.

If that really were the case, you and your buddies wouldn't have to keep repeating the same slogan over and over again.

54 posted on 10/06/2005 7:41:48 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: A CA Guy
And then, just as quickly, they began to lose control. Harder drugs, guns, paranoia, eventually violence -- it was like a movie, everyone agrees. "Mini-Scarface," chuckles Nate's lawyer Frank Cikutovich.

What's so funny about that, Mr. Cikutovich?

55 posted on 10/06/2005 7:42:15 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: TNdandelion

You certainly don't hear about the gigantic crime empires built by people dealing alcohol. You certainly don't hear about the local alcohol dealer getting shot on a deal gone bad.

Yes, you hear about people doing stupid things because they are drunk, but I imagine that during Prohibition that alcohol related crimes still happened, because people were still able to get their booze. Right now, most people who would like to smoke weed can get a hold of it, and how many marijuana-related crimes do you hear of? The only thing marijuana makes you want to attack is a bag of Doritos.


56 posted on 10/06/2005 7:45:12 PM PDT by Quick1
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To: A CA Guy

And to tell you for the 10,000th time... had there been no ban on weed, Nate's little pot empire would have about as much a chance of starting as an acorn empire. The bucks and the prohibition is what drives it.


57 posted on 10/06/2005 7:47:23 PM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: Amity

Because a pot dealer was killed he gets credit to his time.


58 posted on 10/06/2005 7:49:17 PM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: LeGrande
I equate that laws will be broken and law enforcement should do their job well in holding people accountable for their actions.
I consider the small user who smokes now and then from a whole different level from the suppliers/dealers.

Those creeps don't deserve much sympathy IMO.

59 posted on 10/06/2005 7:49:28 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

I dunno. I have mixed emotions when it comes to marijuana. I think alcohol is just as much a gateway drug as marijuana is, and it seems that making marijuana illegal while alcohol is legal is vaguely hypocritical. I've never done marijuana (for that matter, I've never been drunk), but I've known people who were pot heads in high school and/or college who quit just as I've known people who were idiots about alcohol in high school and/or college and quit. Both alcohol and marijuana are ugly drugs, but that it's illegal to sell marijuana and legal to sell alcohol just doesn't make sense to me.

I don't really get the appeal of either, but I don't understand why marijuana is So Bad is has to be illegal, while alcohol is "okay."


60 posted on 10/06/2005 7:53:25 PM PDT by Amity
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