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US troops fighting losing battle for Sunni triangle
The Daily Telegraph ^ | 10/22/2005 | Adrian Blomfield

Posted on 10/21/2005 7:01:20 PM PDT by 1066AD

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To: Criminal Number 18F
No, no, not just the "Ba'athist" who brutalized the Shia for 30 years ~ it's the Sunni who brutalized the Shia for 1300 years!

Beats the heck out of what the Anglo-Saxons were doing to the Brits and Irish ~ that was only 900 years or so (off and on).

21 posted on 10/21/2005 7:13:35 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again? How'bout a double sarcasm for this one)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat
We don't have the stomach for the brutality it will take to cow the Sunnis.

Go educate yourself about what happened to Fallujah. After you've done that, then come back and explain to me why you believe our troops lack the ability to impose their will on the Sunnis that are backing the insurgency.

22 posted on 10/21/2005 7:14:05 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: Criminal Number 18F

This will be there fight soon. I would not to see atrocities on either side but I fear it will get ugly.

Nevertheless, it will be an internal Iraqi matter


23 posted on 10/21/2005 7:14:07 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Criminal Number 18F
flamethrowers...Give them to the Kurds and the Shia. "You may spare the females if you have a use for them. The men are yours. These are the Ba'athists that made your people suffer for thirty years."

Sounds like a plan to me, lets roll!

Regards,
GtG

24 posted on 10/21/2005 7:15:51 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: 1066AD
Okay, fine.

Let's pull all our troops out of Iraq, and nuke the entire country into oblivion.

It's quite obvious from the article that Iraqis are incapable of higher thought, and therefore, we cannot ever hope to ever gain any type of control over the situation.

You're right, British Newspaper. How could we have ever been so stupid? Thanks for showing me the light, the fact that the Iraqis are barbarians.

Where can I subscribe for your enlightening newspaper?
25 posted on 10/21/2005 7:16:21 PM PDT by Termite_Commander (Warning: Cynical Right-winger Ahead)
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To: BenLurkin

DU picked up the story.




Sorry but I have no sympathy for those contractors and I'm losing my patience with our troops.they have become trigger
happy killers as well as thieves and rapists.

http://tinylink.com/?mpoQ7goksO


26 posted on 10/21/2005 7:17:05 PM PDT by jmc1969
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

Saddam knew.


27 posted on 10/21/2005 7:17:21 PM PDT by Banjoguy (I will rot in Hell before I buy another Dell!)
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To: 1066AD
"Nobody was hurt but the mutual distrust between the Americans and the local community deepened just a little bit more."

OK.
I'm sick of hearing this stuff (descriptive wording omitted)
"Distrust" and "hurt" do not equate to "out of power" or "executed".
Let's see one reporter, who has been in or around actual combat - with weapon in hand and on orders - report the same situation!

War sucks,
there are people out there who support you...
and those who don't.
there are feel good stories,
and the others.

Bottom line is that the 'sunni triangle' won't be the same tomorrow as two years ago,
won't be the same tomorrow as today.
Iraq WILL be a changed state when we leave - almost certainly for the better.

The other bottom line is that the MSM and large parts of the settled world will be saddened by that fact.

Xin Loi.

28 posted on 10/21/2005 7:18:26 PM PDT by norton (This is not about the DIA or the CIA. This is about CYA...)
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To: 1066AD

Wait, wait:

when I google "Duluiya" or "sunni triangle" and "contractors", all I come across in News is this story...

If this story is true why haven't others picked it up yet?

Something isn't right about this....


29 posted on 10/21/2005 7:19:13 PM PDT by wigswest
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To: MarkL
Is this something that actually just happened, or is it a retelling of the last time contractors were murdered and their bodies desecrated?

It is new but similar.

30 posted on 10/21/2005 7:19:53 PM PDT by A. Pole (Rubicon: the border between Republic and Empire(www.unrv.com/fall-republic/crossing-the-rubicon.php))
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To: jmc1969
Sorry but I have no sympathy for those contractors and I'm losing my patience with our troops.they have become trigger happy killers as well as thieves and rapists.

Your reference is a disquised link to DU???

31 posted on 10/21/2005 7:19:54 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: bnelson44

Duh, the link to the DU thread and me saying DU picked up the story was a pretty obvious give away.


32 posted on 10/21/2005 7:21:18 PM PDT by jmc1969
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To: 1066AD

guys -

the telegraph is the ONLY source I've found that's carrying this story-

doesn't that seem strange?


33 posted on 10/21/2005 7:21:52 PM PDT by wigswest
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To: BenLurkin

YO! What you be talkin' about Cain't even read that in "MaHEAD"


35 posted on 10/21/2005 7:22:39 PM PDT by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: 1066AD

This incident is not a measure of who is winning the Sunni Triangle.

The measure is in the voter turnout in the Sunni Triangle. The Iraqui people deplore this incident as much as anyone.

The Islamofascists are on a campaign to dehumanize us in Iraq. We need to fight back by humanizing ourselves.

The liberal media goes along with the dehumanizing of Westerners in Iraq. Otherwise they would be showing photos of dead and captured terrorists as well.


36 posted on 10/21/2005 7:22:42 PM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: jmc1969

Sorry, I only read what was under the line. Thought the line delimited someone else' post.


37 posted on 10/21/2005 7:22:52 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: vbmoneyspender
Go educate yourself about what happened to Fallujah.

Quite true of course. And the reporters of the left, the AP dogs and Kevin "Let's Backstab Some Marines" Sites, now of Yahoo, reported that our guys were brutes.

This story illustrates how the bestial -ists will be brave when they are armed and face the unarmed. When we are armed they are contemptibly craven.

This street needs to die. The men, the women, the livestock, those beasts of children, the buildings and the very cobblestones. Americans won't do it. Iraqis will. Give them their head.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

38 posted on 10/21/2005 7:25:05 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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To: goldstategop

http://fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/2005/09/oil-spots-and-maneuver.html

For accurate news, go here or to Winds of Change.net.

If things are so bad, why is Syria now on the hot seat as Wretchard has documented for the past 5 weeks? The Anbar area is getting hammered with one assault after another. One began again on the day of the election.

Frank


39 posted on 10/21/2005 7:25:36 PM PDT by Frank Sheed ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." ~GK Chesterton.)
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To: Criminal Number 18F
This street needs to die. The men, the women, the livestock, those beasts of children, the buildings and the very cobblestones. Americans won't do it. Iraqis will. Give them their head.

You got that right. Unleash the Kurds.

40 posted on 10/21/2005 7:26:10 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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