Posted on 10/25/2005 10:10:26 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I think you're right, but I can't vouch for the Oklahoma stats. It takes courage to speak up.
Hell, people have been using crank as a 'diet aid' for years. And believe it or not, have managed to not lose all their teeth, kids or jobs even!
Not that meth use is good or pretty, but the WOD gets out of hand sometimes.
"the WOD gets out of hand sometimes"
Not in the case of Meth...If there was ever a good place to spend money to eradicate a drug, this is it.
But not before getting people or politicians to waste countless more billions of dollars at the problem. "Gee, meth use is nearly flat over the last n years, despite massive increases in funding for the drug war? Well, that proves we aren't spending enough."
We had NO idea she was doing meth. And I agree, I think she's reprehensible for doing drugs while pregnant.
That said, does that give the STATE the right to take away BOTH of her kids before giving her a chance to clean her act up? Which by law, the state says CPS has to do BEFORE they take the kids.
"It's in the best interest of the children"
Sorry, I will NEVER believe it's in the best interest of the children to be raised by the state. NEVER.
Kingman and the Golden Valley have been s meth haven for years now. Remember Tim McVeigh and his Kingman connecton?
I'm libertarian and I think the Feds should butt out but I seriously doubt the accuracy of this article. I've seen town after town across the midwest hit and overrun with meth. There's no mistaking the difference. It is the biggest thing that has happened there since the dustbowl.
FWIW, I have never touched the stuff. However, I have talked with one recovered user who told me that meth was far more addictive to him than any other drugs he had tried. Anecdotal, I know, but to me the word of an actual addict is more valuable than the interpretation of data for an article.
Yes, I have a comment. Meth heads shoot cops for the same reason that bootleggers shot revenue agents - because their drug of choice was illegal, and a conviction would net them years in prison, which they would rather avoid. Take away the prohibition, and the incentive to kill law officers (and witnesses) goes away. Neither meth nor alcohol are intrinsically evil, and neither do they cause people to become irredeemably evil. But they wanted a war, and they got one. People get shot dead in wars. On both sides.
Pardon my ignorance of the ways and means of methamphetamine use, production, procurement, etc. - but when have Psychiatrists been proscribing it, or anything that generates a dependency on it?
Funny how "conservative" nanny-statists want to think that drug prohibition isn't as bad as it really is.
The DEA's site includes a conspicuous link to "Meth Is Death," a site sponsored by the Tennessee District Attorneys General Conference. The latter site claims that "1 in 7 high school students will try meth"; "99 percent of first-time meth users are hooked after just the first try"; "only 5 percent of meth addicts are able to kick it and stay away"; and "the life expectancy of a habitual meth user is only 5 years."Do the math (which the Tennessee District Attorneys General Conference clearly didn't), and you will see that 13.4 percent of Americans die as a result of methamphetamine abuse within five years of graduating from high school. According to the Census Bureau, there are more than 20 million 15-to-19-year-olds in the U.S., so we are talking about hundreds of thousands of deaths a year, and that's not even counting people who start using meth after high school.
Such ridiculous claims, now implicitly endorsed by the DEA, can only undermine legitimate warnings about the hazards of methamphetamine. The federal government's own survey data indicate that the vast majority of people who try meth do not escalate to addiction, let alone end up dead as a result.
My feeling is, she should clean her act up and then talk to the authorities about getting the kids back. But I'm pro-family on this issue. Talk to people in law enforcement or a prosecutor's office and their view would be much more harsh, ranging from permanent loss of children to death penalty.
There is a strange phenom that began happening here in NYC a few years ago. People who began adopting infants from the Midwest, Pacific NW and Southwest discovered these children had moderate to severe learning disabilities. This was something that was whispered about, but never discussed openly. The problem was eventually traced back to meth, but hushed up by adoption agencies.
People can and do drift in and out of meth use. Those that are hooked are hooked bad. From what I see it is a lifestyle and people are more caught up in the lifestyle than the drugs.
The caption should read "10 Years of (insert your favorite substance of abuse here) Use."
Generally agree. However, there are extreme circumstances where even a foster home or other state custody is not as bad as "home."
In most cases, hopefully a loving relative can take custody, which would be greatly preferable to extended government custody
Ya got that right....as per usual...
only dopes use dope or promote it's use....
imo
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