Posted on 10/29/2005 8:32:19 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
Probably not.
This is dated material from National Review, but for a few bloggers like Michelle Malkin and of course a post from Freepers, WE NEVER SEE THIS REPORTED IN THE MSM ..NOT YESTERDAY, NOR THE DAY BEFORE, AND ESPECIALLY ON THE BIG DAY OF HANDING DOWN LIBBY'S INDICTMENTS .....
Seventy million dollars later and two years of investigations right down practically to the last hour, Fitzgerald blames the delay on Miller "unfortunately" in jail "clamming up" and Libby and journalists differing on "he said, she said and when they said it".
Section 422 (of Title 50, U.S. Code), and it provides that an accused leaker is in the clear if, sometime before the leak, "the United States ha[s] publicly acknowledged or revealed" the covert agent's "intelligence relationship to the United States[.]"
Fitzgerald and the CIA in testimony before the 9/11 Commission questioned why the media neglected to report what was key "evidence" found in "public records" (al Qaeda/Iraq,etc. ). Fitzgerald, therefore, knows how to play the media to his advantage. It's too bad Fitzgerald had not been as vocal publicly on his findings on al Qaeda/Iraqi connections so before mentioned in the above 9/11 link; as he has been on "constructing a Fitzgerald website" for the media on "The Leak".
I'd like to know if the CIA conspired with France [planting fake intel] to disrupt WH foreign policy in the ME.
"Sen Kerry : Libby Indictment Shows White House Corruption"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1511450/posts
Hanoi Kerry goes unpunished for treason and Libby and Delay get indicted.
Hanoi Kerry and Move On FReeper crowd 2
Real Americans 0
There is no need to impeach Hanoi Kerry from the US Senate
He is there illegally!
WAKEUP AMERICA!
For those who "forgot" what Hanoi Kerry
did in the past read on and learn the truth.
Hanoi Kerry was still a USNR officer while he:
gave false hearsay testimony to Congress
negotiated with the enemy
helped the US lose a war
abetted in the deaths of millions
created a hostile environment for all servicemen
Why is Kerry still in the US Senate?
This is in violation of
U.S. Constitution Amendment 14 Sec 3
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.amendmentxiv.html
And the FBI has proof of his treason.
Hanoi Kerry Timeline of a traitor
includes FBI files
May 1970
Kerry and Julia traveled to Paris, France and met with Madame Nguyen Thi Binh, the Foreign Minister of the Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam (PRG), the political wing of the Vietcong, and other Viet Cong and Communist Vietnamese representatives to the Paris peace talks, a trip he now calls a "fact-finding" mission.
(U.S. code 18 U.S.C. 953, declares it illegal for a U.S. citizen to go abroad and negotiate with a foreign power.)
http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html
a) A person charged with absence without leave or missing movement in time of war,
or with any offense punishable by death,
may be tried at any time without limitation.
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ucmj.htm#*%20843.%20ART.%2043.%20STATUTE%20OF%20LIMITATIONS
"This CIA disclosure, moreover, is said to have been made not to Americans at large but to Fidel Castro's anti-American regime in Cuba, whose palpable incentive would have been to "compromise[] every operation, every relationship, every network with which [Plame] had been associated in her entire caree"
The problem with this is that an enemy state becoming aware of a piece of classified information doesn't mean it's no longer classified.
Plame's job was classified through the end of July 2003. And Libby allegedly told reporters about it before the end of July 2003.
Only takes one American to know..cover blown.
" Only takes one American to know..cover blown."
I'm not an intelligence expert so I don't know that to be true or untrue.
But I suspect that whether or not something is classified is recorded somewhere centrally. and that as long as something is classified then it remains illegal to disclose it to somebody without the appropriate security clearance and a need to know.
Folks at the CIA must be pretty dim if they thought Valerie was of much use to them as any sort of agent.
The MSM is our unelected, DNC-run, fourth branch of government.
There was huge difference in the DNC's and MSM's treatment of Valerie Plame and of Terri Schiavo -- both from Huntingdon Valley, PA, both born 1963, both married to liars who give false testimony.
Dims, Dims, Dims, DimsThey may talk of agent outting,
While stamping feet and pouting--
Yelling, “White ‘ouse is the nastiest of places.”But when it comes to slaughter
They’ll deprive the weak of water
And they’ll never ’ave the shame to ‘ide their faces.
The CIA is the real enemy. Shut it down now, Mr. President.
Does the person on the receiving end of the information have an obligation to keep the information secret, rather than publish it?
"Does the person on the receiving end of the information have an obligation to keep the information secret, rather than publish it?"
I don't know.
It probably depends on whether they know it's classified info. I do know that in research, if one becomes aware of classified info inadvertently then the same penalties apply for spreading for spreading that info further.
But that's in scientific research, the only are where I've had to deal with such things. This may be different because the press is involved. Also, I have not seen it shown that Libby was aware that the info he got from Cheney was classified.
If I told you about some new research project that was classified but you didn't realize it was classified then you would not be in trouble for repeating it.
But every time you told somebody before the feds got to you would put me deeper and deeper in the hole.
This means the CIA is untouchable. They have a blank check to take down a president and people in his administration if they need cover for their foul ups or they just don't like the presidents's policies. They're all "classified" right?
Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame were Democrat activists with a plan to show that we went to war for no reason. I'd like to know more of who came up with this idea.
The fact that Valerie was outed to reporters by Libby to give the media clues that Joe Wilson was a liar did not endanger any CIA agent, other than the agents and Democratic activists that hatched this plan. They might end up behind bars.
"This means the CIA is untouchable. They have a blank check to take down a president and people in his administration if they need cover for their foul ups or they just don't like the presidents's policies. They're all "classified" right?"
I don't think it means that at all. I'm not the right person to talk about the classification structure but there are ways to fight about classified topics without going to the press.
The first person to speculatively write on the assertion was Mr. Corn of the Nation, who wrote two days after Mr. Novak's original article was published that Mrs. Plame may have been a secret agent. Clifford May, writing last week in National Review Online, noted that Mr. Novak did not reveal that she was a secret agent. But Mr. Corn, who talked with Mr. Wilson, did raise the possibility of Mrs. Plame's "undercover" status.
[that no crime was committed in the communication of information between Bush administration officials and Novak, but that no crime could have been committed because the governing law gives a person a complete defense if an agent's status has already been compromised by the government?]
It's fight or die time for the repulicrats. The merging of liberal rino's and conservatives is a disaster.
There is a time to gather stones together.
Thanks for that link - I had not seen that article.
["This means the CIA is untouchable. They have a blank check to take down a president and people in his administration if they need cover for their foul ups or they just don't like the presidents's policies. They're all "classified" right?"]
The liberal left apparantly runs the CIA and has masterminded an attempt to destroy the President. Part of GWB problems is his continued attempt, along with many republican politicians, to to pacify and get along with the socialist/communist left of America.
The vicious left wing will take nothing short of the destruction of the conservative right in America and our elected representatives do not represent or defend us anymore.
It's a shame that the repulicrats surrender and continue to move left.
Was she careless on purpose?
BS. An agents cover is blown when they become known as an agent to a foreign enemy power. The statute doesn't say a damn thing about the press and the public and their knowledge of who is and isn't an agent. If the CIA, even inadvertently, disclosed her status then she's been acknowledged as an agent by the US Govt.
I might take your at your word, that it is possible to "fight" classified topics, if you could back up your assertion by telling us how it is possible.
In the end, anyway, we will have to await Libby's trial, to find out what he knew. (What did he know, and when did he know it)
In the end, too, it seems unlikely that Valerie Plame Wilson's position was typical of that of most CIA employees.
If the Plame Wilson photo spread is any indication of how to fight classified wars, then I would say going public is the only way to stay alive. Linda Tripp and Monica Lewinsky are another example of going public to avoid the big trip to Ft. Marcy Park.
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