IS TEACHING TRADITIONAL “HISTORY” HISTORY IN CARSON CITY’S HIGH SCHOOL?

Citizen Outreach ^ | November 3, 2005 | Chuck Muth

[Born Conservative]

Thanks for the ping. I sure hope Mr. Enge prevails...

[Zavien Doombringer]

They are teaching the REV War at an early age. Being a REV-WAR reenactor, I see more and more elementary school (6-8 yrs) than High School kids. Though the younger ages ask more questions, the thought of the war being so long ago has more of a romantic feel to it than a real impact on our history. We reenactors now feel it is our duty to correctly teach the early american life and the truth about the founding of our country. The early you teach them, the more likely to forget it in the older years.

[HungarianGypsy]

I remember in school they would always start out with early American History then stop just at the Civil War. I got so annoyed with this that I wound up with this weird memory lapse about histry from that time for years. When I taught my own children I actually taught them the stories behind the history, rather than just the boring facts I had learned.
On another note, I was in a teacher supply store when I overhead one teacher talking about what she was supposed to teach in her classroom. She said the district wanted her to teach multicultural politically correct crap. She was telling her friend that she pulled out a copy of the state guidelines and told her boss she was required to teach about American Heroes and that is what she was going to do.

[Fiji Hill]

In the high schools in my county, US history starts with the Jazz age and the unions throwing over the bosses.

I once substitute taught a US history class in a Southern California high school in which the students were beginning a unit on the 1920's. I believe one cannot properly teach about America in the 1920's without making at least a passing reference to the Bolshevik Revolution, which cast such a long shadow over world events in the years following 1917. However, not one student in this class had ever heard of the Bolshevik Revolution.

[Zavien Doombringer]

Think that's bad...

I moved to the Hamptonroads area of Virginia, also known as Tidewater, back in 1978. I had learned the history of Williamsburg, Jamestown and the surrender of Cornwallis at Yorktown at previous schools (Dad was military).

When I had to take US History in High School, we were taught the early American Colonization, F and I war, REV War, Mexican/Spanish - American, Civil wars, the Unions and such. But never was there ever a co-relation to the location locally to the history taught. I did not know that our Yorktown was THE Yorktown, or THE Jamestown...

It wasn't until I started taking the learning initiative and ventured outside of the classroom. Took my own field trips and found out about our History. Now I Reenact and teach it.

[Fiji Hill]

We reenactors now feel it is our duty to correctly teach the early american life and the truth about the founding of our country. The early you teach them, the more likely to forget it in the older years.

I feel lucky to have completed my k-12 education before the counterculture of the 1960's began to make an impact on the curriculum. My schooling gave me a basic understanding of our institutions as well as a good grounding in US history. For example, I studied the REV-WAR in kindergarten (1956), in fifth grade (at a Department of Defense Dependent School in Germany), in the eighth grade, and in high school.

Kudos to you reenactors for making history come alive.

[Zavien Doombringer]

you can find most of us at our new website http://www.virginiastatenavy.com

(ps) I am the big guy in the center of the photo :)

[Zavien Doombringer]

You were in a DOD's School in germany? Where?

[Zavien Doombringer]

In deed should be!

[Dianna]

Our HS history started with the Civil War. The thing was, we got the Revolutionary stuff in eighth grade. It was a Catholic school though, and many Catholic grade schools fed into it. So, I think they expected that we would get colonial to Civil War in 8th grade, then Civil War to WWII Freshman year, then WWII to today when you take Recent American History, etc.

I would assume that most kids have learned about the founding and the Revolution prior to high school. Perhaps not. I never had a history class get past the civil war. Never. I didn't learn one thing about WW 1 or 2 in school. We learned very little about the civil rights movement also, so it wasn't that the curriculum was filled with PC crap. There just wasn't much to it at all.

[Fiji Hill]

I attended Bad Kreuznach American School in 1961-62 and Darmstadt American School in 1965-66. My father, Kenneth Orr, taught music at Bad Kreuznach American High School and also at Darmstadt, where I had him for a class. His name can be found on the BHAS memorial page at http://bearkats.org/memorial.htm.

[Coleus]

The Carson City school board email system has either been overwhelmed by the sheer volume of petitions sent in defense of history teacher Joe Enge (over 5,000 by late this morning), or the district has intentionally shut the system down.

They can run, but they can't hide.

Here are the phone numbers to call should you care to continuing showing our support for Mr. Enge's desire to teach ALL of American history to ALL of his students.

Carson High School Principal Fred Perdomo (775) 283-1600 Ext. 3

Carson City School Superintendent Mary Pierczynski (775) 283-2100

Carson City School Board President James Hukari (775) 841-0525

It is critically important for these school administrators to know that what they're trying to do behind-the-scenes is no longer "secret" and that Joe Enge is no longer fighting this fight by himself. I would, however, ask that phone calls be polite but firm; adamant but professional. We do not want to give these folks the ability to undermine our message by attacking the messengers.

Chuck Muth President Citizen Outreach

[Czar]

Petition signed and submitted.

Email sent to Principal Perdomo.

[Born Conservative]

Ping to post 32 (different thread, but same story as ping from this morning with updated info).

[Born Conservative]

Oops; got a little confused there. This IS the thread I pinged, but post 32 on this thread is the one with the updated info (there is a duplicate thread posted tonight; thought I was posting to that one).

[VOA]

bump

[Born Conservative]

I signed the petition, and the emails sent on my behalf came back undeliverable (server was shut down).

[paltz]

BTTT...BUMP

[Czar]

"...the emails sent on my behalf came back undeliverable (server was shut down)."

Just checked, so did mine. Typical reaction of the education bureaucracy. Run and hide rather than face the critics. Like cockroaches, they prefer to operate in the dark and scatter in the light. But that's OK. I'll simply transfer my email to letter and "go postal".

Carson City parents should clean out this rats nest from top to bottom.

[Congressman Billybob]

I got my e-mail in before they shut the system down. I also submitted it as a letter to the editor of the local newspaper. I think we're gonna turn these folks around, PDQ.

Congressman Billybob

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