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This Christmas, Don't Let Them Turn Off the Lights
Human Events ^ | Nov 3, 2005 | Rabbi Aryeh Spero

Posted on 11/03/2005 3:33:30 PM PST by rhema

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To: gidget7

>>As last year, whenever I am out, and someone says "Happy Holidays" to me, I will say back to them "and a Merry Christmas to you!!" with a big smile of course!<<

Me too!


21 posted on 11/04/2005 4:14:29 AM PST by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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To: Salem; Peach; Mo1

Excellent and spot-on.

ping!


22 posted on 11/04/2005 4:27:25 AM PST by prairiebreeze (Take the high road. You'll never have to meet a Democrat.)
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To: prairiebreeze
Furthermore, this group realizes that it is not religion per se but America’s brand of Protestant Christianity that has created such a hospitable environment for Jews, since it celebrates Judaism as a pillar and forerunner to its own Judeo-Christian ethic. Only in America does a form of Protestantism exist that sees in a living Judaism an actual affirmation of biblical Christianity. Evangelicals actually feel a personal bond to Judaism and the Jewish people -- as opposed to the historic theology that while tolerating it, assumed a separateness from it.

Excellent analysis. I think I saw an article headline on FR last night that said that hundreds of lawyers are on hand to combat the ACLU this Christmas.

23 posted on 11/04/2005 4:34:05 AM PST by Peach (The Dems enabled Able Danger. 3,000 Americans died.)
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Hope so. About darned time...


24 posted on 11/04/2005 5:01:00 AM PST by prairiebreeze (Take the high road. You'll never have to meet a Democrat.)
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To: Esther Ruth; agrace; RoadTest; F15Eagle; NYer; Pyro7480; Salvation; wideawake; sitetest; ...

Something of interest for all Christians! And thanks from this Virginia Catholic to the Orthodox Jews and traditional-values Jews for standing against the rad-lib-ACLU and similar spoiled sports!


25 posted on 11/04/2005 5:05:40 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (Not a nickel, not a dime, no more money for Hamastine!)
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To: Peach
I think I saw an article headline on FR last night that said that hundreds of lawyers are on hand to combat the ACLU this Christmas.

Good .. I am so sick of the ACLU

26 posted on 11/04/2005 6:18:54 AM PST by Mo1
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Catholic Ping - Please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


27 posted on 11/04/2005 6:55:04 AM PST by NYer (“Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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To: rhema; Alouette
Rabbi Spero is a great man. I am glad to see that he, like Rabbi Lapin, understands the uniqueness of American Protestantism, which has produced a brand of philo-Semitic conservative chr*stianity that has existed in no other time or place.

On the issue of chr*stmas itself, I'm conflicted. I believe it is wrong because only Jewish holidays are to be observed in some manner by all mankind and other holidays (other than legitimate national celebrations like july 4) are unauthorized by G-d and thus should not be observed. And there are Orthodox Jews who are conducting a campaign--strictly by persuasion--to get non-Jews to stop celebrating chr*stmas on the grounds that it is displeasing to G-d. However, this is one hundred and eighty degrees removed from a campaign against chr*stmas based on secularism or (even more sinister) multiculturalism, which holds chr*stmas is "wrong" not because it is displeasing to G-d but because it is a holiday of the "host" population and thus offensive to "the other." This whole xenolatry kick is really getting to me.

I hope I have been able to express my true beliefs on this issue without offending anyone, but if I have, I must remain true to the Word of G-d as I understand it.

28 posted on 11/04/2005 7:20:19 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (VeNoach matza' chein be`Eynei-HaShem.)
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To: ladyinred
Tell me, would they dare censor a Muslim holiday in this country?

Of course not. Moslems are "the other," and they must be celebrated. It is only "us," "we," "the abstract host population" that must suppress its manifestations.

I can't help but marvel that Black chr*stians are AWOL on this issue just as they are with creation/evolution and any number of social issues. John Brown would be very disappointed if he were around today (though being a Puritan, he probably didn't observe chr*stmas).

29 posted on 11/04/2005 7:23:41 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (VeNoach matza' chein be`Eynei-HaShem.)
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To: Peach
Excellent analysis. I think I saw an article headline on FR last night that said that hundreds of lawyers are on hand to combat the ACLU this Christmas.

I'm a religious minority and I'm offended--offended, I say--by public celebrations of valentine's day, St. Patrick's Day, and halloween. I demand that these all be defunded and restricted to the bedroom where shameful conduct rightfully belongs (and which has been sort of boring since sex went public).

Think the ACLU will represent me?

30 posted on 11/04/2005 7:27:37 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (VeNoach matza' chein be`Eynei-HaShem.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

LOL. It's gotten quite ridiculous, hasn't it?


31 posted on 11/04/2005 8:42:37 AM PST by Peach (The Dems enabled Able Danger. 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: rhema

Any store that advertises Christmas as 'Winter Holiday' or the like will not get my business.


32 posted on 11/04/2005 9:04:16 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: rhema

The thing to realize is that the cultural war being waged against the Jewish and Christian majority is subtle, it's insidious, and makes use of psychology in order to achieve it's aims.

If I can persuade you of nothing else here, I hope to persuade you that Words Have Power and are used as tools against you. It's a form of Orwellian newspeak, but unfortunately is not usually identified as such.

To cite an example, think about the language that has been used against the gun rights movement. Try the term: "rifle" as opposed to "assault weapon." Both terms describe essentially the same tool. The term rifle is fairly innocuous and emotionally neutral. But the term "assault weapon" implies something used for assault(a crime) and by using the word weapon, also implies that the article is a tool used for offensive as opposed to defensive purposes. Or to put meat on the table.

The latest assault on Christian and Jewish holidays is merely the logical extension of what's already been happening for a few decades now. That's why I find it important to reclaim the language. In most instances, there's no reason to be rude in doing so, except perhaps when dealing with the apparatchiks who are trying to implement the strategy.

So when someone wishes me "happy holidays", I turn to them smile and wish them a Merry Christmas. Unless I know that they're Jewish, in which case it's a Happy Chanukah. Also, you should never purchase cards or gift wrap that says Happy Holidays.

Ultimately, it's all about changing behavior. And remember that what's good for the goose is sauce for the gander.


33 posted on 11/04/2005 9:54:33 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: rhema
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34 posted on 11/04/2005 9:59:45 AM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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35 posted on 11/04/2005 10:00:50 AM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: netmilsmom; gidget7

>>As last year, whenever I am out, and someone says "Happy Holidays" to me, I will say back to them "and a Merry Christmas to you!!" with a big smile of course!<<

I try to say something like "I pray you have a very blessed Christmas"


36 posted on 11/04/2005 10:04:47 AM PST by lupie
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But we must respect Islam! < /sarcasm >


37 posted on 11/04/2005 10:12:41 AM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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Merry Christmas to all!!!


38 posted on 11/04/2005 7:41:24 PM PST by Sun (Hillary Clinton is pro-ILLEGAL immigration. Don't let her fool you. She has a D- /F immigr. rating.)
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To: gidget7
As last year, whenever I am out, and someone says "Happy Holidays" to me, I will say back to them "and a Merry Christmas to you!!" with a big smile of course!

And if you really want to tee them off "And may God bless you with a very Merry Christmas"

(Not that I'd do something just to tee someone off. ;^) )

39 posted on 11/07/2005 6:36:07 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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