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Drivers Of Towed Cars Cry Foul After Christmas Parade (L.A. turns parade into moneymaker!)
KNBC4 ^ | 11/29/05 | Mayor Tony Villar

Posted on 11/29/2005 10:58:54 AM PST by BurbankKarl

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To: BurbankKarl

You need a change of government.


21 posted on 11/29/2005 1:27:17 PM PST by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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To: Clock King

We just had a big change in government...he was the Grand Marshal of the Parade because "Hollywood Stars" refuse to participate without getting enticements.

Of course, the Mayor said that the City of LA is looking at a $250 million shortfall in 2006....so perhaps he ordered the confiscation scheme.


22 posted on 11/29/2005 2:13:02 PM PST by BurbankKarl (NRA EPL)
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To: Amerigomag
"Ignorance of the law is not an excuse ... unless you're a liberal ... and then it makes all the difference in the world."

Except that, in this particular case, an ordinance was changed and the people were not informed ("signs were missing or not visible"). Do you really think that was an accident?

"Thank God I'm surrounded by adults on this conservative forum."

Since when are conservatives (adult or otherwise) supposed to mindlessly rubber-stamp anything and everything done by government? And since when do we support petty tyrants and the ordinances they put in place for the sole purposes of revenue generation?
23 posted on 11/30/2005 3:20:09 AM PST by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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To: LIConFem
Do you really think that was an accident?

The motivation for the ordinance doesn't matter. The ordinance does.

Since when am I supposed to mindlessly rubber-stamp anything and everything done by government and when do I support petty tyrants and the ordinances they put in place for the sole purposes of revenue generation?

I'd suggest working to identify, motivate, and advance a suitable candidate for your local government body. Then exercise your franchise during the next election cycle.

There are natural consequences that even petty tyrants can't escape. If every one stayed home from the parade the parking restrictions would soon be lifted and the tyrants would be turned out of office.

24 posted on 11/30/2005 6:38:09 AM PST by Amerigomag
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To: BurbankKarl
I am highly offended, feel disparaged and victimized....It should have been called a Holiday Parade....I'm writing my ACLU chapter! I'm calling Cindy or Martin Sheehan!

/sarcasm

/looney lib rant

25 posted on 11/30/2005 6:42:16 AM PST by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: Amerigomag
"The motivation for the ordinance doesn't matter. The ordinance does."

It wasn't the just the motivation, but the fact that the ordinance was hidden. While I agree that ignorance of the law is no excuse, there is a reasonable expectation that new parking restrictions be clearly posted, rather than deliberately hidden.
26 posted on 11/30/2005 6:44:35 AM PST by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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To: LIConFem
there is a reasonable expectation that new parking restrictions be clearly posted, rather than deliberately hidden.

I agree but I was not there and the MSM, quoting an anonymous, angry women, is not a credible source. When Channel 4 quotes these same women, identified after emerging from their hearings, then the MSM gains some credibility and the point may be well taken.

27 posted on 11/30/2005 7:08:50 AM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Antonello

The wuestion is : which came first - the parked cars or the signs? If the signs were up IAW the law, the drivers pay. If not - the city should.


28 posted on 11/30/2005 7:14:39 AM PST by MortMan (Eschew Obfuscation)
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To: wideawake; Toddsterpatriot
LOL. I was about to type the same thing. These folks should quit whining, come visit Chicago, and watch the professionals at work.

LINCOLN PARK PIRATES
by Steve Goodman (may he rest in peace)

The streetlamps are on in Chicago tonight,
And lovers a'gazin' at stars;
The stores are all closin', and Daley is dozin',
And the fat man is counting the cars...
And there's more cars than places to put 'em, he says,
But I've got room for them all;
So 'round 'em up boys, 'cause I want some more toys,
In the lot by the grocery store...

To me, way, hey, tow them away,
The Lincoln Park Pirates are we,
From Wilmette to Gary, there's nothin' so hairy
And we always collect our fee!
So it's way, hey, tow 'em away,
We plunder the streets of your town,
Be it Edsel or Chevy, there's no car too heavy,
And no one can make us shut down.

We break into cars when we gotta,
With hammer and pickaxe and saw;
And they said this garage had no license;
But little care I for the law!
Our drivers are friendly and courteous;
Their good manners you always will get;
'Cause they all are recent graduates
Of the charm school in Joliet.

To me, way, hey, tow them away,
The Lincoln Park Pirates are we,
From Wilmette to Gary, there's nothin' so hairy
And we always collect our fee!
So it's way, hey, tow 'em away,
We plunder the streets of your town, Be it Edsel or Chevy, there's no car too heavy,
And no one can make us shut down.

And when all the cars are collected,
And all of their fenders are ruined,
Then I'll tow all the boats in Belmont Harbor
To the Lincoln Park Lagoon;
And when I've collected the ransom,
And sunk all the ones that won't yield;
I'll tow all the planes that are blocking the runways
At Midway, O'Hare, and Meigs Field!

To me, way, hey, tow them away,
The Lincoln Park Pirates are we,
From Wilmette to Gary, there's nothin' so hairy
And we always collect our fee!
So it's way, hey, tow 'em away,
Now citizens, gather around,
And I think it's enough, let's call his bluff,
Let's throw the bum out of town!


29 posted on 11/30/2005 7:18:29 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
They only got me once. Near the Rock and Roll McD's. Came out of the bar at about 1 am. Took me until 4 am to ransom my car. Bastards. Geat song though.
30 posted on 11/30/2005 7:22:14 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (The Federal Reserve did not kill JFK. Greenspan was not on the grassy knoll.)
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To: Antonello
Out of curiosity, what non-financial consequence do you propose that would create an incentive to avoid parking illegally?

Forcing women (or their wives, in the case of men) to have sex with me.

IN THE MATTER OF THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES
                  v.
          MARYANNE PARKER

The court hereby rules that you are sentenced to get in a 
slinky nightgown and high heels, and visit the residence of 
Lazamataz after January 7, 2006 but no later than January 
14, 2006, and...

31 posted on 11/30/2005 7:22:23 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading The Article Since 1999)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
3 hours, huh? Not bad. Consider yourself luck that you didn't have to visit the Car Jail on 127th and the Ryan. It's a 24$ cab-ride simply to get there.

As a humorous aside, I got a ticket tossed and my towing fee refunded my last time. The cop checked the incorrect violation on the ticket (not surprising because it was about -10F that night), and I successfully argued that (for that reason) the towing company had no authority to tow.

The look on the traffic judge's face was priceless when the city attorney said "We are not challenging that argument." She responded,

"I think I'll just dismiss this one and let you get on with your work."

32 posted on 11/30/2005 7:35:10 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
3 hours after 7 hours of drinking. I had to go to the lot on Lower Wacker, IIRC. That reminds me, they gave me 2 tickets before they towed me, about an hour apart. I sent a letter asking wasn't 1 ticket and 1 tow enough? Let me repeat, bastards!
33 posted on 11/30/2005 7:42:16 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (The Federal Reserve did not kill JFK. Greenspan was not on the grassy knoll.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Ah, the Rock'n'Roll McDonald's. Good times. Good times.


34 posted on 11/30/2005 7:54:37 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Clemenza

You'd enjoy this thread.


35 posted on 11/30/2005 7:55:05 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake
Nothing like an extra large drunken fries before you go to your car.
36 posted on 11/30/2005 7:55:57 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (The Federal Reserve did not kill JFK. Greenspan was not on the grassy knoll.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

LOL! It's been a long time - right now I'm missing the cheesefries at Gold Coast Dogs, the steak burrito at Taqueria Las Americas and the polish at Wiener's Circle.


37 posted on 11/30/2005 7:58:34 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake
Wiener Circle!! A friend got married at one of those fancy mansions nearby. The food was awful and a group of us took a walk to the Wiener Circle. It's a shame, whenever we see the guy that's the first thing we remember.
38 posted on 11/30/2005 8:05:37 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (The Federal Reserve did not kill JFK. Greenspan was not on the grassy knoll.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

My fondest memory of the car jail on Lower Wacker is the 30 min. or so I spent drinking with the winos under the Illinois Center. I had a half jug of wine in the car, and not wanting to drink it on the way home [smirk] I simply gave it away. They invited me to join them . . . I accepted [what the heck]. It was like a scene from a post-apocalyptic B-movie: water dripping from overhead, steam rising from below, dark, dreary, barren . . . I wished for my camera.


39 posted on 11/30/2005 8:08:19 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
You're a brave man.
40 posted on 11/30/2005 8:33:33 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (The Federal Reserve did not kill JFK. Greenspan was not on the grassy knoll.)
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