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Republicans Decry Language On Guest Worker Program Added To Bill
The Mercury News ^ | December 14, 2005 | Dena Bunis

Posted on 12/15/2005 7:03:13 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest

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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
"Don't worry, I'll just call the new amnesty a 'guest worker program.'

"My peons are so estupido, they'll believe anything."

Gringo Mexico Bush Peso

21 posted on 12/15/2005 7:51:24 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

To train a dog the first thing one has to do is get the dog's attention. Unfortunately we have to wait for the next election to make our point.


22 posted on 12/15/2005 7:57:01 AM PST by drypowder
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Here is the NumbersUSA web page that gives minute by minute updates on the progress of this bill in the House today:

NumbersUSA

I suggest that everybody burn up their Congress Critter phone lines if they start voting against the enforcement provisions.

23 posted on 12/15/2005 8:55:31 AM PST by jackbenimble
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; A CA Guy; ...

ping


24 posted on 12/15/2005 9:00:05 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: Travis McGee

It sure didn't take long for the House bill to get polluted did it?

Who could have seen this coming? / sarcasm /


25 posted on 12/15/2005 9:22:14 AM PST by planekT (<- http://www.wadejacoby.com/pedro/ ->)
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To: jackbenimble

Thanks for link, unless Flake's language is removed conservatives should work to kill the whole scamnesty.


26 posted on 12/15/2005 9:25:52 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Thanks for link, unless Flake's language is removed conservatives should work to kill the whole scamnesty.

My Congress Critter has already gotten that message. Actually Barbara Cubin (R-WY) is a pretty good conservative and she is excellent on the illegal immigration issue. I have met her a few times and she comes across as dumb as a post. But I have no complaints about her voting record.

27 posted on 12/15/2005 9:30:03 AM PST by jackbenimble
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To: jackbenimble

It's reps like Barbara Cubin many of us conservatives in the Northeast rely on since there's so few up here. This is the land of Rockefeller Republicans.


28 posted on 12/15/2005 9:37:26 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: jackbenimble


29 posted on 12/15/2005 10:15:52 AM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Whatever happens in the House, the bill up for consideration Thursday is not likely to become law. The Senate is slated to take up immigration reform in February. A handful of reform proposals have been introduced, but two major bills - one by Sens. John Cornyn, R-Texas and Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., and another by Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz. and Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., are the major ones.

Most of the bills being considered include both enforcement and guest worker measures.

Call your representatives and demand NO language is present in the final House bill that mentions "guest worker program or plan". Our hope lies with having debate on the enforcement amendments that provide actual border security, passage of the bill.Having the final conference report containing the same tough U.S. code that Americans are calling for is the goal.

30 posted on 12/15/2005 10:26:44 AM PST by afnamvet
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
If a "sense of the House" regarding guest worker is in the final draft then the Republican immigration committee caucus should kill the bill and revert to current immigration law.

The House is where we will obtain border security and enforcement.....NOT the Senate.

31 posted on 12/15/2005 10:32:47 AM PST by afnamvet
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To: Reaganwuzthebest; BigTex5; Ann de IL; Sterco; voiceinthewind; calrighty; tall_tex; ...

Uninvited guests ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off this South Texas/Mexico ping list.


32 posted on 12/15/2005 10:43:37 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Liberals-beyond your expectations!)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
What's going on with House leadership appears to be nothing more than a charade to get amnesty through.

The scam upon American taxpayers continues. Call your state's con artist today and let him/her know that you know what they're doing. Resentment is growing in America.

33 posted on 12/15/2005 10:50:15 AM PST by janetgreen
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To: TomGuy
During a meeting of the House Rules Committee, which was setting the rules for today's debate and deciding which amendments will get floor votes, Mr. Sensenbrenner repeatedly said the bill makes unlawful presence a felony. That went too far for some members of the committee, including those who had intended to support the bill. "As far as I'm concerned, the wheels just came off the bus. No one believes we're going to arrest 11 million people," said Rep. Adam H. Putnam, Florida Republican.

And right there is the HEART of the problem. The illegals do not believe anything will happen to them when they flip the finger at our laws which is why their crime rate is astronomical.

The time has come for America to enforce the law and round up all the illegals and ship them out (no they can not take there illegally gotten possessions) and arrest the employers that caused so much hardship on the American Citizens that lost jobs, houses, cars, marriages, etc due to greedy employers illegally hiring aliens that have no business being in this country.

34 posted on 12/15/2005 10:51:07 AM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, Minuteman Project AZ Day -1 to Day 8, Texas Minutemen El Paso, 32 Days)
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To: afnamvet
The House is where we will obtain border security and enforcement.....NOT the Senate.

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. I had hoped that the House would pass a solid enforcement bill. But if it passes with this bill with "sense of the House is that we need a guest worker shamnesty" language in it, it is an invitation for the House Leadership to include whatever shamnesty language the Senate comes up with next spring during the Joint Senate/House Reconciliation Conference. The House Leadership is almost universally pro-open borders. That includes Hastert, Dreier, and now Sensenbrenner. Given language like this to work with, it is pretty obvious what they will do.

I agree with the idea that if the final bill from the House includes this shamnesty language we are better off with no bill from the House. We'll just let the problem fester and throw a few open borders Republicans out of office next Fall and see if the rest get the message.

35 posted on 12/15/2005 10:54:35 AM PST by jackbenimble
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To: Paloma_55

The problem is the NAM (National Association of Manufacturers) the Chamber of Commerce and the NAHB (National Association of Home Builders). They all are addicted to cheap labor


36 posted on 12/15/2005 11:02:52 AM PST by tom paine 2
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To: TLI

"How about lobby to reverse the text?"

Conversely, you have people like Terry McAuliffe who will lobby to keep the "guest workers" program.

From "Do As I Say" by Peter Schweizer:

"Watching television one night, I saw Terry McAuliffe, then chairman of the Democratic National Committee, expounding on the importance of labor unions as an essential check on corporate power and to guarantee a living wage for American workers. Living in Florida, I knew that McAuliffe had been in the homebuilding business around Orlando. Did he use union labor when he was chairman of Orlando-based American Heritage Homes? A quick call to the Carpenter's and Lather's Local No. 1765 revealed that McAuliffe was using "cheap immigrant labor" instead of union employees, paying them six to seven dollars an hour. The Florida Building and Construction Trades Council confirmed that under McAuliffe, there was "little or no union relationship" with American Heritage Homes. (This is a double slap to organized labor: In addition to championing unions, McAuliffe has made millions over the years through business dealings with union pension funds -- unions who members he himself would not hire.)


37 posted on 12/15/2005 11:03:23 AM PST by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: jackbenimble
The Senate's two bills, McCain/Kennedy and Cornyn/Kyl both contain "guest worker" provisions that reward illegal aliens with a pass. The worst being McCain/Kennedy, IMO, I see no strong language in either that would secure our borders.

I'm watching CSPAN for upcoming debate in the House.

38 posted on 12/15/2005 11:17:40 AM PST by afnamvet
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To: Itzlzha
No more RINOS...they are WORSE than DemaonRATs...at least we KNOW the DemonRATs oppose us...the RINOS take the campaign contributions, mouth comforting platitudes, and THEN stab us in the back! All the while becoming extremely wealthy off the backs of the voters!

Exactly. You took those words right out of my mouth. I predicted the RINOS would pass Bush's plan BEFORE they went home for the Holidays, figuring we would all forget about it by the time they are in session again. Have you got any rope? I have some, but obviously not enough. Maybe Santa will bring me more for Christmas. LOL

39 posted on 12/15/2005 11:30:00 AM PST by NRA2BFree (http://www.angelfire.com/nm2/chainreaction/Kitties/LittleFReepers.html)
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To: jackbenimble
Make your vote count. Quit blindly giving it to Pubs who plan to shaft you and vote third party! Your candidate won't win but instead of sending the message, "Please shaft me", you will be sending the message, "I'll shaft you".

Absolutly! What's so hard to understand here. The "Two-Party Cartel" has played this game for years now & the sheeple keep voting these scumbags in white shirts back in. Further, this cartel has only to put up the worst candidate in one faction to create a win for the other weak candidate. A large 3rd party vote would really shake'um up in D.C. They must EARN their vote.

40 posted on 12/15/2005 11:31:42 AM PST by Digger (Outsource CONgress)
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