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Defenseless on the Bayou - New Orleans gun confiscation was foolish and illegal.
Reason ^ | December 2005 | Dave Kopel

Posted on 12/23/2005 4:38:26 PM PST by neverdem

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To: festus
"Police suddenly body-slammed the elderly woman into her kitchen wall, sending dishes and a trashcan flying. Then they confiscated the gun and dragged her out of her home. "

Source:http://www.nraila.org/issues/Articles/Read.aspx?ID=177

21 posted on 12/23/2005 6:27:43 PM PST by Simo Hayha (An education is incomplete without instruction in the use of arms to protect oneself from harm.)
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To: andyk
"Linguini-spined jerks couldn't even be man enough to admit what they had done."

Correctable. Anyone giving such an order, anyone following such an order should never hold public office or wear a badge again. Ever.

Are they public servants or royalty?
Are they policemen or mercenaries?

22 posted on 12/23/2005 6:30:01 PM PST by labette (When policemen break the law, there isn't any law. Just a fight for survival.- Billy Jack)
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To: neverdem
Outrage is one appropriate reaction to an article such as this another is thoughtful reflection. How will I react if something like this occurs in my community and what can I do to prepare myself. Certainly secreting and securing a certain number of weapons and ammunition would be appropriate. Preparing a certain token amount of weapons to surrender should be another. Blanco is not the first incompetent Governor to ever disgrace a state house (I am reminded of the current DNC chairman)so this scenario will repeat itself; it is not a matter of if but when.
23 posted on 12/23/2005 6:36:08 PM PST by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: lowbridge

BUMP


24 posted on 12/23/2005 7:11:34 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: neverdem

I am not surprised that this all took place in a democrat controlled (for 60 years) place.

That said, I agree we all need to be very thoughtful on what our individual responses would be if (when) such a situation occurs.

It's going to happen sooner or later, I'm afraid.


25 posted on 12/23/2005 8:18:53 PM PST by MonroeDNA (Look for the union label--on the bat crashing through your windshield!)
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To: MonroeDNA

The day it does happen is when tyranny will have broken out and will be the day when it is the citizens duty to remove the dictatorial leaders from power.


26 posted on 12/23/2005 8:56:23 PM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: neverdem

bump


27 posted on 12/23/2005 8:58:04 PM PST by VOA
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To: Simo Hayha

I guess my tagline says it all on this point.

Thanks for the story I hadn't seen that one.


28 posted on 12/23/2005 9:31:18 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Simo Hayha

What is interesting here...is that the cops chose their "victums" one by one. Had everyone left in Orleans known what was going to occur...then a militia would have formed, and a dozen guys would have been there at each location to face the cops. For some reason, cops...even if there are 20 of them on the scene...have a fear if more than two of the opposing group are armed. This is probably why the consitution left freedom of assemby and freedom to maintain your firearm very clear in the consitution.


29 posted on 12/24/2005 12:05:10 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Modok
Where is the rest of the story. What would we think if this had been done 10 years ago? I want to see the names of those in the federal government and national guard who were in on this gun confiscation.

I've got a flash of bad news for you. The Pew Trusts did a big sociological survey in 1999, which they've since updated, that identified a key group within the Republican coalition as being very, very weak on Second Amendment rights -- businessmen. The very constituency that drives this Administration. They don't like the "lower orders" owning firearms. Understandable, given businessmen's vocation of taking money from them.

Don't believe me? Post me a link to a story, any story, about how the Bush Administration or DoJ sprang to assist citizens whose Second Amendment rights were being violated by the Louisiana constabulary.

Worse, Oklahoma National Guardsmen and the U.S. Marshal Service participated in the roundup.

Handgun Control is watching. So is Hillary.

30 posted on 12/24/2005 1:11:43 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lowbridge
Tell me again how these guys will refuse to obey illegal and unconstitutional orders.

But, they swore an Oath, to protect and defend the Constitution. Pardon my sarcasm. Blackbird.

31 posted on 12/24/2005 5:36:09 AM PST by BlackbirdSST
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To: lentulusgracchus

"-- businessmen."

A large number of Masonic types derive from them.


32 posted on 12/24/2005 6:18:35 AM PST by mdmathis6 (Proof against evolution:"Man is the only creature that blushes, or needs to" M.Twain)
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To: mdmathis6
Are you suggesting a link between membership in the Masons, and one's position on gun control?

?

33 posted on 12/24/2005 9:41:47 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Not the rank and file Joe Blows who get together for some fun and foolishness on "temple nights".

Yet you tell me, most Mason's are tend to be business and professional type folks,,,business people are said to be weakest on the rights to bear arms. I merely ask the question. Are there any published articles that today's Masons are vastly supportive of RTKBA?(at least of the leadership)?

I ask the question, knowing my own dad was a Mason member!


34 posted on 12/25/2005 2:38:56 PM PST by mdmathis6 (Proof against evolution:"Man is the only creature that blushes, or needs to" M.Twain)
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To: Grut
Sure you have. It's in the silence.

Speaks volumes doesn't it.

35 posted on 12/25/2005 9:02:41 PM PST by planekT (<- http://www.wadejacoby.com/pedro/ ->)
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To: mdmathis6
I don't know about any survey data taken from Masons per se, so I can't answer your question.

The Pew Trusts did, however, survey businessmen extensively in 1999 and found them weak on RKBA. I think we could count on them to roll over for gun confiscation and heavy restriction, particularly if it were aimed at "lower-class types", i.e. their employees.

IMHO businessmen have been weak on the whole subject of personal liberty and American independence going back to 1775. They were all for throwing off royal imposts on their business, but they've behaved like Tories ever since, "royalists without the King". That was always true of Alexander Hamilton and the Federalists he repped for. Hamilton attacked the idea of the Bill of Rights very strongly in the last two or three numbers of The Federalist. It was the Antifederalists who championed the Bill of Rights.

36 posted on 12/26/2005 3:47:01 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Old Sarge

ping...

you were talking about this subject earlier - thought you'd be interested...


37 posted on 12/26/2005 3:49:31 AM PST by Keith in Iowa (Don't have an annus horribilis in 2006.)
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