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Abu Ghrab figure England burned in prison mishap
Reuters ^ | Dec 29 2005 | Adam Tanner

Posted on 12/29/2005 7:55:00 PM PST by jmc1969

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To: LauraleeBraswell
they did to those PRISONERS

That is not the problem, this dumbbell disobeyed a direct lawful order not to be in the prison. She was a clerk.

21 posted on 12/29/2005 8:23:54 PM PST by org.whodat
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And, just to be clear, although it was war, what this silly little girl did was to allow herself to be photographed 'humiliating' the prisoners - not hurting or torturing, humiliating. And yes, I will say 1 is better than the other. You get over humiliation much more easily. One of the guys who was humiliated by Lyndie then said to the press that all that notwithstanding, he wouldn't mind immigrating to the US. Got over pretty quickly, wouldn't you say?

I can't believe some of the comments on here - no sensitivity at all and a lot of judgement. For those of you casting aspersions on her fortitude, the article does say she was removing the chickens from a *tall* oven. You might say she couldn't see, possibly lost her balance, the contents moved, she got splashed with hot oil, whatever. Lyndie is neither a hero, nor a wimp. Those of you, though, who have made insensitive, obnoxious comments, might want to examine yourselves by the same standards of judgement you did Lyndie.

I've been here less than a year and I know that there are some crude dregs here, but tonight, I'm speechless.


22 posted on 12/29/2005 8:24:39 PM PST by definitelynotaliberal
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To: org.whodat


okay, so I understand. but the "Abu Ghrab scandal"... don't care. I don't care. It's war. Did you know 5 million German children died in our bombing of Germany World War II? That's innocent children. So do I give a crap about some insurgents who we caught being made to do a pyramid? No. Our men have gone through worse torture. That's kiddie stuff compared to true torture. I don't care.


23 posted on 12/29/2005 8:27:34 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell
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To: LauraleeBraswell

What she did has nothing to do with World War II, or what has happened to Americans. It has to do with what's right. Don't get me wrong, I don't care if we use a little coercion to get some information, but her actions were irresponsible and useless.


24 posted on 12/29/2005 8:33:11 PM PST by Madison Moose
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To: Travis McGee

In US Naval brig?? Permit me to doubt.


26 posted on 12/29/2005 8:37:24 PM PST by GSlob
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To: oolatec

That is a very cruel and crappy thing to say.


27 posted on 12/29/2005 8:38:28 PM PST by freedumb2003 (American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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To: oolatec

Are you embarrassed yet?


28 posted on 12/29/2005 8:38:45 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: SandyInSeattle

It seems out of character if you look at his other posts. I think he might've been trying to say that which has been said much better by org.whodat and Madison Moose. As stated by those gentlemen, it is a position which with I wholly agree, but oolatec just hit a new level of crass. I hope he also finds the class in himself and admits, if only to himself, that he said something really jerky.


29 posted on 12/29/2005 8:42:19 PM PST by definitelynotaliberal
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To: Travis McGee
I think you probably have it calibrated correctly there Travis.

Wolf
30 posted on 12/29/2005 8:45:30 PM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: GSlob

I didn't know Miramar had a brig here in San Diego.


31 posted on 12/29/2005 8:46:57 PM PST by It's me
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To: definitelynotaliberal
I hear you absolutely-notaliberal,

Lyndie was just a pawn, and what went down at Abu Ghraib was next to nil in the world of torture.

Look at how our own people came back from Hanoi Hilton, read about them. Do some reading from political escapee's from Cuba. The movies don't even get close to it much of the time.

Wolf
32 posted on 12/29/2005 8:58:34 PM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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I didn't know it either, but I just read that Miramar houses DOD female prisoners. Seems a shame she has to serve so far from home, with a new baby back in W. Va with her mom. I do feel some compassion for her, due to her low I.Q. She was easily led astray.


33 posted on 12/29/2005 9:01:33 PM PST by countess
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To: Madison Moose
"but her actions were irresponsible and useless."

How? She did not "torture" them mr mccain. Harsh language and a bit of taunting is nothing.

Now I understand that sometimes the other boys back in elementary school might have been mean.... but adults can probably avoid allowing that cause misplaced empathy now that they are grown up
34 posted on 12/29/2005 9:06:09 PM PST by JSteff
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I never saw any use to what she did. There is a difference between what she did and the legitimate use of torture/coercion on Al Queda or other terrorists.
35 posted on 12/29/2005 9:09:50 PM PST by Madison Moose
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To: jmc1969
I don't mind her dragging dog-collared terrorists around and putting dirty panties on them.

Gee. Years ago a buddy and me used a military truck to steal boxes of booze and ice from the Officer's Club and a few squadrons' enlisted folks had parties with no questions asked. The Senior Master Seargent just kept his mouth shut. My buddy and me were honorably discharged when the time was up for us. We wrote him from civilian life to tell him what we did. He knew and just kept quiet because we were very good at it:):) We were smart.

We didn't hang around with some other guys that decided to bring a bunch of Spanish hookers on base in a 2.5 ton truck. The OSI ran all over the place looking for them. Those guys got kicked out for being stupid. We avoided those guys and did "smart" pranks. Not that we couldn't avoid a rope around our necks if we got caught:)

36 posted on 12/29/2005 9:10:09 PM PST by BobS
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You know what, unless there was an innocent freedom loving Iraqi among those made to do the pyramid, I don't care. Just don't feel bad. I can't help it, but I don't care.


37 posted on 12/29/2005 9:23:06 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell
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To: RunningWolf


THANKYOU. I could care less what went down at Abu Ghraib.


38 posted on 12/29/2005 9:46:51 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell
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To: eyespysomething
Too bad FR doesn't have a "Think" button next to the "Spell" one.

That would shorten threads considerably and reduce bandwidth cost. Maybe John should stick a dummy one on their to cover us dummies, also.

39 posted on 12/29/2005 9:54:23 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: jmc1969

So aside from being a total screw-up, she can't cook.


40 posted on 12/29/2005 10:04:30 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (A Liberal: One who demands half of your pie because he didn't bake one.)
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