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Scientists: Donner Family Not Cannibals [Donner Party story debunked?]
San Francisco Chronicle ^
| 1/12/06
| Scott Sonner
Posted on 01/12/2006 6:06:49 PM PST by TFFKAMM
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To: TFFKAMM
6: How we feeling, Captain?
C: Not too good. I...I feel so weak.
2: We can't hold out much longer.
C: Listen...chaps...there's still a chance. I'm...done for, I've...got a gammy leg and I'm going fast; I'll never get through. But...some of you might. So...you'd better eat me.
?: Eat you, sir?
C: Yes. Eat me.
?: Iiuuhh! With a gammy leg?
C: You didn't eat the leg, Thompson. There's still plenty of good meat. Look at that arm.
5: It's not just the leg, sir.
C: What do you mean?
5: Well, sir...it's just that -
C: Why don't you want to eat me?
5: I'd rather eat Johnson, sir!
?: So would I, sir.
C: I see.
?: I'm not a salad...everyone's gonna eat me!
?: Uh, well.
5: What, sir?
?: Go ahead, please, but I won't -
?: Oh nonsense, sir, you're starving; ducking.
1: No, no, it's not that.
?: What's the matter with Johnson, sir?
1: Well, he's not kosher.
5: That depends how we kill him, sir.
1: Yes, that's true. But to be perfectly frank I...I like my meat a little more lean. I'd rather eat Hodges.
?: Oh well, all right.
5: I still prefer Johnson.
C: I wish you'd all stop bickering and eat me.
1: Look. I tell you what. Those who want to can eat Johnson. And you, sir, can have my leg. And we make some stock from the Captain, and then we'll have Johnson cold for supper.
Crew: (cacophonous) Hmm, yes, good idea, excellent thinking, very good, I don't suppose we could have Hodges in the morning, jolly good idea, etc.
There's a Monty Python sketch for almost every possible occasion. :-)
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posted on
01/12/2006 6:36:03 PM PST
by
Riley
("What color is the boathouse at Hereford?")
To: al baby
One of the most twisted lines from Pinky and the Brain was in a Christmas episode:
Pinky: The reindeer are inviting the elves to join them at a party at Donner's house.
Brain: Hmm. Somehow the idea of joining the Donner party is unappealing.
How many parents howled with laugher while the kids had no idea what it meant.
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posted on
01/12/2006 6:36:04 PM PST
by
KarlInOhio
(Hey Fat Ted: Alito is the judge, Mojito is what you're drinking. Try to remember the difference.)
To: sandbar; Dashing Dasher
A while back I'd read of a company of US soldiers that found themselves stranded in the Sierras, snowbound much like the Donner Party. The tried waiting it out living off their rations till they ran out. Then they butchered their mules.....later their horses. They were still starving.
The mules and horses burned up their fat trying to survive. By the time the soldiers started eating them, they had no fat left. The soldiers were eating extremely lean muscle and as a result suffered protein poisoning and starvation.
This event was reported in a scientific article on Hyenas; why hyenas don't starve during famines while other carnivores suffer and perish.
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posted on
01/12/2006 6:36:15 PM PST
by
BIGLOOK
(I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
To: andysandmikesmom
Heh... (He's supposed to be the villain in the story)
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posted on
01/12/2006 6:36:54 PM PST
by
HairOfTheDog
(Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
To: rwfromkansas
Agreed...I was absolutely grossed out at that episode, but also found it hilarious...
To: rwfromkansas
I have had it for a while. I like movies - but can't find the ones that I want at my local video store.
I have about 100 in my queue right now and am on the three at home plan. It's great.
I have watched so many more movies than I did before. Too much trouble to go to the store and pick from what they have left.
I give it four stars.
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posted on
01/12/2006 6:38:35 PM PST
by
Dashing Dasher
(Never find fault with the absent. - Alexander Pope)
To: Riley
"What color is the boathouse at Hereford?" "How TF should I know?"
GREAT flick.
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posted on
01/12/2006 6:38:46 PM PST
by
Petronski
(I love Cyborg!)
To: HairOfTheDog
I always have a thing for the bad guy, or the villain...dont know why that is...even when I was dating, I was always drawn to the 'bad' boys....the hubby says that is why I married him, he is so 'bad'...
To: TFFKAMM
Did they find the cookbook that says "Tastes like chicken?"
Actually this is a fascinating story. One of the survivors trekked down to the Johnson Ranch and they got help from Sutters Fort to help with a rescue mission. He went down the mountain on old wooden skis as i recall. This probably saved many lives.
To: lexington minuteman 1775
Snow shoes. One of the party was from one of the nordic countries, and he knew how to make 'em. There were several parties having various amounts of success in leaving that place.
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posted on
01/12/2006 6:41:46 PM PST
by
bannie
(The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
To: Petronski
"How TF should I know?" or- "I don't think I like your attitude."
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posted on
01/12/2006 6:42:40 PM PST
by
Riley
("What color is the boathouse at Hereford?")
To: andysandmikesmom
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posted on
01/12/2006 6:43:37 PM PST
by
HairOfTheDog
(Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
To: Riley
Yeah, I was quoting the denouement with the "team leader" lassie.
Damn, what a good film. Frankenheimer's a genius.
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posted on
01/12/2006 6:44:13 PM PST
by
Petronski
(I love Cyborg!)
To: Petronski
54
posted on
01/12/2006 6:44:44 PM PST
by
durasell
(!)
To: bannie
Let's eat the coward, he tastes like chicken!
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posted on
01/12/2006 6:45:27 PM PST
by
MichiganCheese
(A muslim couple reminiscing about their kids; "they blow up so fast, don't they?")
To: durasell
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posted on
01/12/2006 6:45:29 PM PST
by
Petronski
(I love Cyborg!)
To: sandbar
I would hate to think I had allowed myself and my family to get into a circumstance where cannibalism became a real possibility. However the drive to survive and protect loved ones is undeniable(for most people...) and if it meant my family members dying slowly and painfully, I wouldn't hesitate to make the necessary choices to keep them alive.
As I've said before, I'm a barbarian, my clan comes first, last and always. While most other people cling to the veneer of civilization with all of it's taboos and mindless restrictions like a drowning man to a life preserver, I'm not so constrained.
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posted on
01/12/2006 6:45:40 PM PST
by
Dr.Zoidberg
(Mohammedism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
To: MichiganCheese
May I have a drumstick, please?
:-D
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posted on
01/12/2006 6:46:29 PM PST
by
bannie
(The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
To: Petronski
I know- but I'll take either answer. Actually- it's about time for another screening.
'Lassie?' I think not.
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posted on
01/12/2006 6:47:27 PM PST
by
Riley
("What color is the boathouse at Hereford?")
To: NormsRevenge
On an RV trip on the Oregon Trail, we stopped at a spring near (Marysville? KS?) that had a rock which was engraved by the Donner party. It was still clear as a bell.
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