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Murtha's War Hero Status Called Into Question
cnsnews.com ^ | 1/13/05 | By Marc Morano and Randy Hall

Posted on 01/13/2006 11:53:53 AM PST by paltz

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To: river rat; Mr. Silverback; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

"We can't pretend that our lost brothers are not still watching and waiting for vindication.. Waiting to have the doubt cast on their honor by that lying sonuvabitch Kerry -- removed and their honor restored without question or doubt, by even the most radical opposition to that war. And, challenging ANYONE that resorts to "Stolen Valor" to diminish the valor of those that truly earned it."

Good words, rat. May I?

We can't pretend that our lost brothers and sisters, sons and daughters are not watching and waiting. Waiting to have the doubt cast on THEIR honor and waiting to hope THEIR honor his upheld and challenging ANYONE that resorts to "Stolen Valor" to diminish the valor of those that truly earned it. That the Sons and Daughters are ALREADY responding to this FROM THE FIELD, defending this mission while engaged in defending our freedoms, is a sad commentary on this state of affairs.


601 posted on 01/19/2006 4:32:38 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: Phantom Lord

Not a smart move.

I echo your sentiments! Thanks John

602 posted on 01/19/2006 4:35:36 AM PST by jos65
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
The EXACT post where I said you were guilty of treason?

For the third time, see post 537, and read it this time. Either own up to it and apologize or at least stop asking me this question when I've explained it already.

By the way, if you really don't think the people who disagree on your tactics are backstabbing the troops, why don't you say so here right now? Why don't you say, "If you disagree with me on tactics, it doesn't mean you are dishonoring the troops. You are honorable and loyal Americans and I don't mean to imply otherwise." You'll still have to explain the sabotage and backstabbing referances, but it will be a start. Now answer why you choose not to answer the other posters, on this thread, who have posted replies to you.

There are posts where I asked you five or six questions and your response was a one-liner that didn't answer any of them, followed with a thousand word skyscraper full of stuff I already knew. You have no standing to treat me like I haven't answered questions. First, I'm not aware of anyone who has challenged me, other than freema, and I blasted her. Second, I think your question translates to "Why are you picking on me? Waaaa!" Suck it up.

And are you onboard on this new way to keep hanoi kerry out of office in '06 or not.

Sure, if you're doing it by sending a package to the District Attorney in Boston. It has almost no chance of going anywhere, but it has a lot more chance of success than your other plan. But you haven't been talking about getting a criminal conviction, you've been talking about shifting the axis of political action toward getting this guy out of Congress by invoking the 14th Amendment. And when people say thsat won't work or the cure would be worse than the disease, you treat them as backstabbers and saboteurs, guilty by an association that doesn't even exist.

603 posted on 01/19/2006 6:33:09 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Which outlets in the library are appropriate for my hairdryer--Actual question asked of a librarian)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
I VOW to the 58,000 + Brothers and Sisters on The Viet Nam Wall who never came home and to those who died at home from injuries and from broken hearts.

John O'Neill made a similar vow. that didn't mean he spent every second of the last 30 years trying to get Kerry. It doesn't mean he called people backstabbers when they thought his tactics wouldn't work. He waited, and when the time was right he struck and he won.

Like O'Neill, I'm in this to win. I say you can't win with the tactics you want to use, and I get treated like Jim Wasser. Not cool.

In fact, one wonders why, if I care so little about Vietnam Vets and their honor, I opposed Jim wasser on the street and in print and got threatened on the phone in the dead of night for it, and counted it as a badge of honor.

604 posted on 01/19/2006 6:43:07 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Which outlets in the library are appropriate for my hairdryer--Actual question asked of a librarian)
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To: river rat; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
You two need to agree to disagree on some points and accept each other as brothers with a difference of opinion - and no more than that.....

That would be fine with me. I think you can understand where I'm coming from, though, rat. I think I understand where you're coming from, too. And in my heart, you Vietnam guys have never been dishonored, the dishonor is on those who have harmed you, and it has been my privilege to expose them where I could.

As for your dream of seeing Kerry hang...well, I believe there will be a day you will see him condemned, either here on Earth or before God's throne. And if it's the latter, he'll wish he had never been born. I don't think you'll have to wait that long, though.

605 posted on 01/19/2006 6:53:40 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Which outlets in the library are appropriate for my hairdryer--Actual question asked of a librarian)
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To: Calpernia; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

The end of the article is illuminating:
2004/08/12/20040812-A4-01.html


606 posted on 01/19/2006 7:11:45 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: Calpernia; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Let me try that again : )
www.columbusdispatch.com/election/election-president. php?story=dispatch/2004/08/12/20040812-A4-01.html


607 posted on 01/19/2006 7:14:19 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: freema

Which article? The main one of the thread? Or was there something added that you are pinging?


608 posted on 01/19/2006 7:14:53 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

See the post above yours, I fixed the link.


609 posted on 01/19/2006 7:17:19 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: freema

Try that one more time.

That link leads to:

File not found
The page you’re looking for wasn’t found on our server.


610 posted on 01/19/2006 7:20:36 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Well, that's weird.


611 posted on 01/19/2006 7:28:41 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: freema
That said, I deeply appreciate your service, and thank you for it.

You're welcome, of course. I was glad to do it.

If you want to move on and focus on what Murtha is doing today, please do so. Please ping me with an after action report.

I am sorry that I don't have the time to hun these up for you, but why don't you go read these columns I wrote in 2004 and 2005. They're posted on FR:

Wishful Thinking and Valor on the Cheap
Boats were just the beginning for Kerry
Democrats add insults to...insults
American IEDs
Arguments from the Left lack punch

Read those and then tell me if you think I'm going to give Murtha a free pass.

613 posted on 01/19/2006 8:12:17 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Which outlets in the library are appropriate for my hairdryer--Actual question asked of a librarian)
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To: Mr. Silverback

If you want to move on and focus on what Murtha is doing today, please do so. Please ping me with an after action report.


614 posted on 01/19/2006 8:25:41 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: Mr. Silverback

If you want to move on and focus on what Murtha is doing today, please do so. Please ping me with an after action report.


615 posted on 01/19/2006 8:25:46 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: Mr. Silverback

If you want to move on and focus on what Murtha is doing today, please do so. Please ping me with an after action report.


616 posted on 01/19/2006 8:25:57 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Oops. It's not like I'm promoting myself or my words- my computer got stuck.


617 posted on 01/19/2006 8:28:14 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: paltz

For the love of God NO REPUBLICANS SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN THIS! It doesn't matter if they are telling the truth. They will be slimed by the self-righteous lefties as troop bashers. Let his fellow Democrat congressman prove it and argue for it.


618 posted on 01/19/2006 8:28:33 AM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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To: freema
Oops. It's not like I'm promoting myself or my words- my computer got stuck.

Fair enough. But for you to imply that Murtha will get a pass from me after my history regarding Kerry, Sheehan and their fellow travelers...like I said, read the columns and judge for yourself.

619 posted on 01/19/2006 8:40:49 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Which outlets in the library are appropriate for my hairdryer--Actual question asked of a librarian)
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To: river rat; Mr. Silverback; Calpernia; freema; usmcobra

There is a new path to get hanoi kerry thrown in jail.

This would not involve a conviction from the state level but rather a federal conviction.

Credit to Calpernia for finding this.

The Swift Boat Vets have already proven, without a doubt,
that hanoi kerry lied about his 1st Purple Heart.

Anyone of a logical and sound mind can see the fraud
in his 1st Purple Heart, without any doubt.

ONCE this bill is passed in the House and Senate
(keep in mind Republicans AND Democrats are behind this bill,
and the GOP controls both)
that unless hanoi kerry admits to fraud BEFORE the bill is
signed into law by the President then hanoi kerry is guilty of fraud.

Again since this is a federal law, not a state law,
hanoi kerry can't get a DA from MA to protect him.

So is everyone in agreement that this new tactic is worth the effort of all conservatives, i.e. Republican, Indepdendent and Democrat to get this law passed and signed into law before the '06 elections?

You see hanoi kerry will not be able to run in the
US Senate again, ever.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1560750/posts?page=37#37



620 posted on 01/19/2006 8:52:21 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a Service Man or Woman today?)
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