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Wal-Mart, bicycle builder named in $900,000 lawsuit
Kingsport Times-News ^ | January 16, 2006 | JEFF BOBO

Posted on 01/16/2006 3:27:57 AM PST by beaversmom

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To: Ninian Dryhope

Imus is off today. You're filling a big void for me. Thanks for the grins.


41 posted on 01/16/2006 4:20:45 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: Havoc

Maybe the parents should have trained the kid on how to ride a bike, I agree, I hope the whole thing gets thrown out of court.


42 posted on 01/16/2006 4:21:29 AM PST by stopem (Think outside the Fox.....)
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To: Havoc
A parent didn't take the time to ensure that the bicycle was in proper operational condition so it's someone else's fault the kid got hurt... right. I had a mountain bike gifted to me this season and the first thing I did was check the brakes and the shifting for proper function. When you buy a bike from Walmart, like it or not, you get what you paid for.

Agreed that lawsuits against bad parenting are probably a real negative for civilization. I'm wondering if the kid had ever been out on the bike with an adult who taught proper braking and vigilence in the location described.

About WalMart bikes. Every few years, I buy a mud bike there and replace it. (It's actually cheaper that way then buying new tires and getting a second bike tuned) Anyway, the WalMart I go to is actually careful. In each incidence, after constructing the bike, we went made sure brakes, steering, seat setting, pedals, etc were fine, and it was a "good ride" for me. Of course, even if that is company policy, there is no way to know all stores follow it.

I would think a child that age out riding alone is the parent's responsibility, even if the brakes were imperfect (and we don't even know that).

43 posted on 01/16/2006 4:21:54 AM PST by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: Pikachu_Dad
"End result: WalMart stops selling bikes.

Or maybe they should add a disclaimer to all their products "Walmart is not responsible for any injuries to stupid people" LOL....

44 posted on 01/16/2006 4:23:39 AM PST by stopem (Think outside the Fox.....)
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To: beaversmom
I've got a possible solution:

Every time some one buys something from Wal Mart, or any other store, the store has the right to come into your home unannounced to check to see if the product is being used properly. Afterall, if the store is going to be held responsible for items after they are bought, then why should they be unfairly limited in their responsibilities?

Ridiculous? Of course. But so are these lawsuits.
45 posted on 01/16/2006 4:23:53 AM PST by LRS
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To: beaversmom
Idiots. People should buy a bike from a reputable bike shop, not from Wal-mart. You pay for what you get and a one size fits all bike cheaply made and improperly assembled, is unsafe. But I don't think this is worth a million dollar lawsuit.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

46 posted on 01/16/2006 4:24:06 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: beaversmom; All

It would seem to me that a good parent will want to make sure the brakes work before they let their child ride it. Now, had the parents done that they would have noticed the brakes not working prior to the kid riding the bike and finding out the brakes failed. Do you think there would be a lawsuit if the parents had checked the brakes first. I seriously doubt it. If Walmart is smart they will counter sue the parents for negligence. And while they're at it, maybe they should call DHS too!


47 posted on 01/16/2006 4:26:32 AM PST by dmw
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I've had several Wal-Mart bikes but I always check the bolts, brakes, etc. before riding. We bought the granddaughter a mountain bike from there this year and it's working fine but we keep it checked. We don't ride in traffic and don't get to ride a lot. I can't afford a $1000 bike from a bike shop so the Wal-Mart brand has to do. I don't trust anything that is pre-assembled though. If it is, I check everything on it. Maybe someday I'll be rich enough to have another Schwinn.
48 posted on 01/16/2006 4:26:41 AM PST by Melinda in TN
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To: Havoc
"Thanks to republicans and democrats alike, in many communities, a Walmart may be the only opportunity available to some people after the local bicycle shops closed due to pricing competition."

Yeah, SUUURRREEEE they did. Bike shops serve a completely different (upscale) market than Wal-Mart. They have faced exactly the same "price competition" from Sears, JCPenny and numerous other "el-cheapo bike" retailers.

49 posted on 01/16/2006 4:28:58 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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50 posted on 01/16/2006 4:29:56 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

Doesn't the plaintiff have to prove the brakes were defective? If so,how?


51 posted on 01/16/2006 4:30:55 AM PST by luvbach1 (Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: MRadtke
I am an avid cyclist. I have an 18 speed bike that I ride many miles per week. I rode in the Bike Ride Across Georgia last year (396 miles in 7 days). I would like to make these points:
1) How old was the boy? Children are not held to the same level of care in a court of law on the issue of contributory negligence.
2) The bike was purchased for his sister. The bike may have been purchased for her size and may have been too big or too small for the boy, making is harder for him to control the bike.
3) When you purchase a bike in a bike shop, the seat is adjusted to fit the person along with the size of the bike. The rider is instructed in how to use the braking system, which is generally a rear and forward brake on each wheel. Riders are generally warned not to use the front wheel brake first. Also, brakes are always checked prior to leaving the shop.
4) Most bikes come with an instruction book and explain safety instructions.
5) What was the terrain like at the place of the accident? Was the boy going downhill. Even a kid on an inexpensive bike can get up to 40MPH on some hills in North Georgia.
6) The boy should have tested the braking system prior to that particular incident. Most riders would need to use the brakes at some point if there were any hills, stops or sharp curves.

There is a lot we don't know, so I will reserve judgment. However, if the brakes failed after the boy was familiar with the bike and had tested the brakes earlier, and the failure was mechanical (defective), the family may have a case.
52 posted on 01/16/2006 4:32:04 AM PST by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: Melinda in TN

Don't bother..I think Schwinns have been made in China for a long time now, and I don't believe the quality is anything like it used to be...although my info. may be moldy. I still have my Black 10-speed Continental, made in the U.S.A., back in 1981 (ah, the Reagan years). It still runs like a sewing machine and looks great, too!


53 posted on 01/16/2006 4:32:48 AM PST by john drake (roman military maxim: "oderint dum metuant, i.e., let them hate, as long as they fear")
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To: Reform4Bush
Exactly. A good bike should fit one's height and weight like a hand to a glove. And dealer quality bikes will come in different sizes and they will be expertly assembled and tested by shop mechanics for fit, safety and comfort. I have a 55 cm Lemond Zurich. Its a great road bike and new models tend to command a premium price. But if you like to ride the road, its quality build and light weight make riding fun, unlike the experience one encounters with a mass department store "gaspipe" built bike. Ditto for other kinds of bikes, like mountain, cyclocross, singlespeed, folder, BMX and children's bikes.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

54 posted on 01/16/2006 4:34:01 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: mlc9852

yep, if you don't know the condition of your vehicle, its your fault. When is the last time brakes failed on your car? I happen to know that I have 12,000 miles of wear on my 4 wheel disc brake vehicle. I normally get 25 to 30K on a set of brakes because I don't use them all that often. I employ the gear box to slow the car in most situations as I leave sufficient following distance to keep from laying on the brakes. It is the drivers responsibility to insure the vehicle is in condition to drive on our roads.


55 posted on 01/16/2006 4:35:17 AM PST by halfright (3 Days post Hanoi (Jihadi) Jane... 2200hrs meeting to urinate on her grave...Semper Fi !)
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To: beaversmom

Eric Burton and The Animals... Great band.


56 posted on 01/16/2006 4:36:19 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Reform4Bush
There is a huge difference in the quality of the bikes, parts and the service you receive.

And the price. Amercians want cheap crap, Amercians buy cheap crap, Amercians get cheap crap.

57 posted on 01/16/2006 4:36:49 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: halfright
I'm glad to hear you're safety-conscious. My point was brakes failing is not operator error.
58 posted on 01/16/2006 4:36:57 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: Havoc
a Walmart may be the only opportunity available to some people after the local bicycle shops closed due to pricing competition.

Oh please! I was walking by the bikes in Walmart the other day and noticed some decent looking mountain bikes for $75. I don't want to pay $400 for the same bicycle from some little bike shop just to make sure the brakes get adjusted properly. In your communist scheme, people would would have to pay 2-3 times as much for everything just so a small handful of business owners could make out. SORRY! The marketplace, i.e. consumers, have voted otherwise.

59 posted on 01/16/2006 4:37:33 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: son of caesar

If the Chinese manufacturer cannot be held liable, they should not be doing business in the US.


60 posted on 01/16/2006 4:38:30 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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