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The Lost City of Cahokia
Humanities | September/October 2004 | Emmett Berg

Posted on 01/17/2006 2:01:14 PM PST by robowombat

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The words 'lost city' summons up images of jungle choked ruins or sand engulfed remnants of some vanished city not the suburbs of St. Louis, but there you have it.
1 posted on 01/17/2006 2:01:16 PM PST by robowombat
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To: robowombat

Cool!


2 posted on 01/17/2006 2:08:41 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Is there a satire god who created Al Gore for the sole purpose of making us laugh?)
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To: robowombat
Around 500 B.C.E.

Ah, Common Era instead of Christ. I wonder what event marks the beginning of the Common Era?

3 posted on 01/17/2006 2:08:46 PM PST by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: robowombat

Cahokia is not "lost", it is still there. Just....uninhabitable.

Much like a large part of the city of New Orleans.


4 posted on 01/17/2006 2:09:27 PM PST by alloysteel (There is no substitute for success. None. Nobody remembers who was in second place.)
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Much like a large part of the city of New Orleans.

Maybe Ray Nagin can run for Mayor of Cahokia.

5 posted on 01/17/2006 2:11:35 PM PST by xrp
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To: robowombat
I visited Cahokia, and it's actually quite cool. It's also a cautionary tale against socialism. The (unknown) tribe that built the place, built a landscape of hills for their city. The chief forced workers to carry sacks of dirt from the river, to build a hill covering sixteen acres for his lodge:

Other mounds were used for homes for other elites, for burying important dead, and for ritual purposes. What made Cahokia a "lost" city is that only the mounds remain, along with whatever's under them.

6 posted on 01/17/2006 2:13:08 PM PST by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: robowombat

Bump! (PS: Did the mound builders suffer from piles?)

parsy, the naive american.


7 posted on 01/17/2006 2:14:16 PM PST by parsifal ("Knock and ye shall receive!" (The Bible, somewhere.))
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To: Onelifetogive

Troublemaker.


8 posted on 01/17/2006 2:15:49 PM PST by biggerten
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To: robowombat

I grew up around St. Louis and frequent visits to the Cahokia Mounds were a part of my upbringing. I still visit every year or so. It used to be just a place to go for picnics, with a small museum, but in the past few years they have gone to great lengths to preserve the area as a historical/archaelogical site, and the new museum is very informative. It's a worthwhile stop for anyone passing through the area.


9 posted on 01/17/2006 2:19:39 PM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (Just say "No" to Judy Baar Topinka)
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There is also a great mock-up of an Indian village scene in the interpretive center across the street from the "Great Pyramid". In present day Cahokia, several miles away, there stands a very interesting French Colonial vertical log cabin.


10 posted on 01/17/2006 2:23:57 PM PST by Riverine
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Maybe you can comment on this sentence from the beginning of the article: Cahokia was the hub of a way of life for millions of Native Americans before the society's decline and devastation by foreign diseases.

I've been there twice. Most recently two years ago. I was under the impression that they were unsure of why the society declined and disappeared. I was more under the impression that it may have been do to climatic factors.

11 posted on 01/17/2006 2:30:26 PM PST by stayathomemom
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I was always curious about what great new ideas came into Cahokia and central US around 500 B.C. Their art looks very Aztec.

When the native peopes of s.e. US, i.e. Mississippi were first contacted they had an elaborate class system.

I suspect the new religion or religious ideas included a priestly caste and human sacrifice.

The upright log cabin is very early French. Easterly made a Daguerrotype of the first courthouse in St. Louis, upright log, it was still standing in 1848.


12 posted on 01/17/2006 2:33:43 PM PST by squarebarb
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Ah, Common Era instead of Christ. I wonder what event marks the beginning of the Common Era?

The beginning of the fourth year after the birth of Christ, of course.

13 posted on 01/17/2006 2:34:26 PM PST by SedVictaCatoni (<><)
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They employed exotic materials such as shell from the Gulf of Mexico, copper from present-day Michigan, mica from what is now North Carolina, and obsidian from the land that became Wyoming.

The Mississippian Culture had a fascinating trade network. I've been to the museums at the Etowah mounds near Rome, Georgia, and at mounds near Spiro, Oklahoma- what, 1000 miles away? They show the extensive interchange of goods and materials between these peoples, east, west, north and south.

What I don't understand is how an article like this can neglect the most famous Mississippian mound complex of all: the Serpent Mound in southern Ohio.

14 posted on 01/17/2006 2:38:27 PM PST by mikeus_maximus (Voting for "the lesser of two evils" is still evil.)
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To: robowombat

Still no sign of the wheel.


15 posted on 01/17/2006 2:38:46 PM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: stayathomemom
Maybe you can comment on this sentence from the beginning of the article: "Cahokia was the hub of a way of life for millions of Native Americans before the society's decline and devastation by foreign diseases."

I think the writer had a bit of a problem crafting this sentence. Plus, here and there, he shows some bias against European and American settlers. So, while there were indigenous peoples in later centuries who did die because of new diseases brought in by settlers, there's no evidence that this was true of Cahokia. You're right, it could have been climate-related, but every possible cause is speculation at this point, and the final decline of Cahokia remains a mystery.

16 posted on 01/17/2006 2:41:48 PM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (Just say "No" to Judy Baar Topinka)
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To: stayathomemom
I was under the impression that they were unsure of why the society declined and disappeared.

In the history books I've seen that are more than about 5 years old, they always talk about a mysterious, unexplained decline in Indian population after 1500 or so.

In the things I've read that were written less than about 5 years ago (like this book), they invariably talk about a huge population decline caused by foreign diseases, to which the Indians had no resistance.

So I guess history writers feel the mystery has been solved.

17 posted on 01/17/2006 2:43:29 PM PST by 68skylark
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To: xrp
Heiroglyphics have been decyphered at the site. The ruling family was named Duh Lahi and the scepter was passed on for many generations.

I don't Nagin would stand a chamce.

18 posted on 01/17/2006 2:55:31 PM PST by Young Werther
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To: squarebarb
The long mound shaped like a serpent has 'Nazca' similarities.
19 posted on 01/17/2006 3:02:28 PM PST by johnny7 (“Iuventus stultorum magister”)
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To: Onelifetogive

They should just keep B.C. and A.D. and tell people the initials stand for "backwards counting" and "after dat."


20 posted on 01/17/2006 3:04:40 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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