Georgia Makes Itself Heard - Russian-Georgian Conflict

Kommersant ^ | Feb. 03, 2006 | Vladimir Novikov, Mikhail Zygar

[x5452]

Back to defending Soros men I see. Saakashvili is a fully funded Soros puppet.

[RusIvan]

We are dealing with a very rich, insidious, malicious and experienced enemy whose goal is not to allow the rebirth, unification and final liberation of Georgia,==

He is just one of ungrateful bastard. Russia saved Georgia from total annihilation in history.

[Tailgunner Joe]

ping

[Lukasz]

He is just one of ungrateful bastard. Russia saved Georgia from total annihilation in history.

Is there any nation in Euro-Asia that Russia did NOT saved from annihilation? :-)

And seriously I agree with him, Today Russia is an enemy of Georgia. It is so obvious, Russian actions in Georgia says everything.

[Lukasz]

I hope that Georgia join NATO soon, only this organization can help them. UN is totally useless and I don’t know why this joke of the history still exist.

[GSlob]

More power and support to him. He'll need it.

[MARKUSPRIME]

I agree the UN is useless.Russia and china abuse their permanent security council powers and they dont deserve them at all. God I wish we could turn back time when the UN was formed and make the security council have to be all democratic. The US and UK like to learn the hard way I guess. The NATO clause stating an attack on one of us is an attack on all of us is the only thing that can help them from the russians.

[nativeRussian]

There is an essential difference between the Russian people and Russian authority-officials. The same thing is in Georgia. Both the Russian and the Georgian peoples are Orthodox Christian, poor and oppressed since 1917. Georgia was most weak republic in the former USSR, where government got huge money for stabilization economy from Kremlin, but all had been stolen by officials. I visited my friends in Tbilisi when CPSU' executive secretary Egor Ligatchev arrived with inspection of Georgian officials.. Corruption exceeded any conceivable limits. As my Georgian friends told, Ligatchev had got two big trunks with money and had gone without any problems for Georgian officials.. At the same time, the average Georgian people lived very poor. Today's Kremlin masters, Putin and his friends from Peter, are making huge money to own pockets and any sponger (like Georgia) is unnecessary. But it is doubtful that the NATO will feed the Georgia like Kremlin did it in the USSR times..

[M. Espinola]

Do you notice that almost every nation enslaved under Soviet Communism desire joining NATO as soon as possible, for protection from Putin's growing KGB army.

[Marine_Uncle]

"ping"
I'm staying out of the fray, but thanks for ping. To many things that I for one am not of aware of regarding this issue. I did find the article interesting and informative. Thanks.

[familyop]

We should help Georgia much more with arms and training.

[dr_who_2]

Soros it trying to take ohfer the vorld! He is a madman!

Getting back to the subject at hand... evidently Georgians don't like Russia very much. El Soros can't be the only reason.

[RusIvan]

And seriously I agree with him, Today Russia is an enemy of Georgia. It is so obvious, Russian actions in Georgia says everything.==

Accually I agree that Russia' actions on Caucausus is at least clumsy. It is Putin' fault. One of few. For what we REALLY may critisize him.

[RusIvan]

Is there any nation in Euro-Asia that Russia did NOT saved from annihilation? :-) ==

For example? If you remember the baltic prussians the slavic nation the neibor of Poland. Russia couldn't save them so now they are not exsist. (Poland didn't help them also I don't know reason).

But some others like ukranians, beloruses, georgians, armenians, bulgarians, romanians, serbians, greeks, moldavians in Europe was almost annihilated by thier stronger enemies in middle ages but Russia saved them.
In Asia Russia helped to survive kazakhs, kirgizes, kalmicks (whom Russia resettled on her lands at Caucasus). They all was almost expunged by chineese invaders in Central Asia.
Further on east Russia save small nations like: buriats and hakasses. You probably did never hear of them? But they live today because they joined Russia and Russian army defended thier lands from invaders from south.

Even in 20th century as part of Soviet Union Russia saved your polish people from total annihilation by hitlerites. You lost 6 mlns in WW2 (huge losses) but you could lose every pole for sure if not Red Army.
Don't you agree that if Stalin stopped on river Bug then we couldn't have our conversation today since I wouldn't have you as a opponent.

[Lukasz]

But some others like ukranians, beloruses, georgians, armenians, bulgarians, romanians, serbians, greeks, moldavians in Europe was almost annihilated by thier stronger enemies in middle ages but Russia saved them.

LOL If you think that Russia saved Belarusians and Ukrainians from annihilation, so it speaks much about the rest of your claims. Ivan, such fairytales you can save for your children.

Even in 20th century as part of Soviet Union Russia saved your polish people from total annihilation by hitlerites.

Georgians, Armenians, Ukrainians, Balts and Belarusians as you always claims totally dominated in Soviet Union, so lets give them this credit. Total annihilation of Polish people it is just your fantasy, that is how you try to justify Soviet crimes in Poland.

[strategofr]

"We should help Georgia much more with arms and training."

Possibly. But that is pretty far from us and close to the Russians. Before we start, we better make sure we can commit to follow-through---not leave them in the lurch.

[Just mythoughts]

When the Soviet Union crumbled, how is it that Russia apparently by default got that UN Security Seat? I find it curious that the defenders of Russia claim the power and deeds of the evil empire, the Soviet Union, was controlled by non-Russian individuals and entities.

Yet these few years after the crumble the same methods of operation are still flowing out of Russia in what appears to be an attempt to put the empire back together again.

[nativeRussian]

ping

[Lukasz]

Georgia pays for Iranian gas with U.S. money - paper