The price of 'disrespecting' women

Jerusalem Post ^ | May 4, 2006 | Schmuley Boteach

[Hildy]

I don't know about this story...his whole thesis is based on "THE FACT" that this girl was raped. I don't think this girl was raped. Strippers at a college party? YAWN...not a new phenomenon.

[Vision]

You're right, but overstating it. The decision to indulge in a sexual dalliance doesn't have much to do with a lack of character, but has much more to do with opportunity. A man or woman of character can fall to temptation (or the promise of easy, uncomplicated sex) if they make the calculation that the indulgence can be completely separated from their life and won't harm their primary relationship.

I'm thinking about those who make this a habitual way of life. Not those who "fall off the path".

[HitmanLV]

Rabbi Schmuley is a good guy who shows up on radio on tv now and then(I have heard him on Laura Ingraham & Dennis Prager on occasion). He has a new reality series on TLC, 'Shalom in the Home,' which I have seen twice and enjoyed. His heart is in the right place but now and then he is off the reservation.

[mollynme]

Boteach....where have I seen that name before?

Wasn't he the pop psychologist who was promoting Michael Jackson?

[wouldntbprudent]

Agreed. It's a "Girls Gone Wild" world out there, feminism not men are to blame, but the end result is nevertheless crap for everyone involved.

[RAldrich]

"ONCE, WHEN I lectured at Yale, a female student perfectly identified for me how it is a man's world and how it all begins at university: 'When it comes to love and relationships the men here sit and pick us out, like a man sifting through a jar of jellybeans for the colors and tastes that he likes, leaving behind all the ones that don't appeal to his taste buds at the moment.'"

But don't women do the same thing? Size up the men?

I don't like the way he tries to characterize the women as victims. If men don't respect the women that he is referring to, maybe the women behave in a way that doesn't earn respect. It's a free country and women are free to behave as they choose. If they want to behave as "victims" or "playthings" then that's up to them.

[wardaddy]

there was a thread here recently by him that was controversial

another men/women thread

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brought out the hardcases in FReeper angry males

[DelphiUser]

>>Strange papers in that county Israel

So, what state is that county in?

LOL

[nmh]

"It is time for the Western world to accept the sad truth that universities are becoming bastions of female-hating lechers who spend four years trying to bed as many women as possible, while making the word "bitch" one of the most used in their vocabularies. "

And females dress like sluts and go along with it. It's a TWO WAY STREET.

"Tom Wolfe's newest novel, I Am Charlotte Simmons, chronicles the unbelievable scorn for women that permeates the American campus, and how women have lost all dignity, becoming complicit in their own degradation, as they stop at nothing to become the male plaything. "

A female can only lose her dignity IF SHE ALLOWS THAT TO HAPPEN. The same is true with REAL men. It's a two sided disaster inspired by radical feminism.

[Warren_Piece]

I haven't seen this show (but I'd like to). Does he fix marital problems by getting the man to change? BTW, read ANY "Christian" marital advice book, and they ALWAYS get around to blaming the man. If she's not happy, it's your fault. If you're not happy, it's your fault because if you were making her happing, you'd be happy.

Dr. Laura's book really surprised me when she advised wives to "put out" even when they didn't feel like it. (Her analogy is perfect: He goes to work, mows the lawn, goes with you to the mall, etc. when he doesn't feel like it). Oh, well, enough OT blather.

[HitmanLV]

Yep. I like him but like I said, he goes overboard now and then.

[Vision]

My mistake:D

[Vision]

The author is on the TLC channel with his new show "Shalom in the home". I'm gonna not be able to watch another trailer of his without wondering..."What makes him hate NASCAR so much?"

[RipSawyer]

Thomas Wolfe is EXACTLY right about the campus culture. It's Nero's Rome at most campuses and men aren't interested in getting married and neither are most women, many of whom spend a lot of time slutting around. Almost nobody dates.

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But amazingly when some of them who have been living together decide to make it legal they often want to go the whole hog route with the fancy wedding, bridesmaids, and all that. There is something strange about a couple living together and planning all that. I work with a young man now who tells everyone about all the preperations for his upcoming wedding to the woman who shares his bed every night. I lived with my first wife before the wedding but we simply went down to the probate judge and got married without all the hoopla and we were together until she succumbed to cancer.

[delphirogatio]

"ONCE, WHEN I lectured at Yale, a female student perfectly identified for me how it is a man's world and how it all begins at university: 'When it comes to love and relationships the men here sit and pick us out, like a man sifting through a jar of jellybeans for the colors and tastes that he likes, leaving behind all the ones that don't appeal to his taste buds at the moment.'"

As opposed to WHAT? Is this some sort of plea for Affirmative Action in dating??? Men should date women they don't want to, just to make the women feel more desirable? Puh-leeze.

[HitmanLV]

The ones I have seen he has worked with both the man and the woman. In one case, the man needed the most help because his conduct was basically teaching his out of control daughter to be belligerent. In the other case, he worked with the man and the woman to be more romantic with each other - the wife had clearly begun alienating her husband by going overboard on her 'mother' role, and he was an alienated, pouty guy in his own home. They both had to change, and they did.

[William Terrell]

So you really think women are inferior to men in every way?

Of course not. The reason men use all this power to build the world is because of women. And, remember, women are the only portal into this world for more men (and women).

The point is that women are being propagandized into thinking the powers of men are incidental, overridden by mere paperwork and of little consequence.

Sometimes, I think evolution is actually true, provided that the hypothesis is that human beings evolved not from apes, but from lemmings.

[Gingersnap]

Although I disagree with the author's assumption that "dancer" was raped, I have to say that he makes some very good points.

My husband works for a large university and I'm on campus probably 2 or 3 days a week. I've watched the academic and social climate change pretty radically over time.

I don't think the author is bashing guys per se so much as he is pointing out that a culture which offers easy and immediate sexual gratification for men degrades both men and women. He rightly points out that women participate in their own downfall freely.

I also think the author is looking at the problem from a point of view that is informed by Orthodoxy to some extent. When men and women keep their distance from each other in public a little bit, they remain interesting and slightly exotic to each other. When men and women have done everything physically possible to each other by the age of 20 or so, they become jaded.

I think he made some good points.

[Old Professer]

As long as it remains a fact that women don't have to "get it up," it will remain a fact that women won't marry down.

[blueminnesota]

Sorry if I misunderstood you.