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The price of 'disrespecting' women
Jerusalem Post ^ | May 4, 2006 | Schmuley Boteach

Posted on 05/04/2006 7:03:56 AM PDT by blueminnesota

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To: Nonstatist
It's Nero's Rome at most campuses and men aren't interested in getting married and neither are most women, many of whom spend a lot of time slutting around.

Anecdotal, but many of the girls I knew were going for their college degree as well as their Mrs. degree. Probably more so than weren't.
61 posted on 05/04/2006 9:01:42 AM PDT by DarkSavant
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To: blueminnesota
I think it's a case of sour grapes.

Me thinks "Schmuley Boteach" didn't get much in college.
62 posted on 05/04/2006 9:05:26 AM PDT by Blackirish (Hillary is angry AND brittle.)
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To: blueminnesota
No sorry. I phrased it the brutal way I did on purpose.

63 posted on 05/04/2006 9:05:56 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: delphirogatio
Is this some sort of plea for Affirmative Action in dating???

Aristophanes once imagined a law under which old hags would have the right to demand sex from handsome young guys.

As the feminists of the 1960s get older and uglier, look for these kinds of bills to hit the floor of the House and Senate.

64 posted on 05/04/2006 9:06:03 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: freedumb2003

That's great!!


65 posted on 05/04/2006 9:06:42 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: caver

It's a classic :)


66 posted on 05/04/2006 9:08:50 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Don't call them "undocumented workers." Use the correct term: CRIMINAL INVADERS!)
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To: freedumb2003

UGH... that was funny yet bad... no mention of Saddle Point Methods though.... ;-)


67 posted on 05/04/2006 9:09:03 AM PDT by last american
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To: blueminnesota

I think Shmuely is from Miami Beach. He's American.


68 posted on 05/04/2006 9:09:50 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

"As the feminists of the 1960s get older and uglier, look for these kinds of bills to hit the floor of the House and Senate."

To quote the comedian Ron White, "Things that make you want to go, 'Bluuuuughhhh' "


69 posted on 05/04/2006 9:09:57 AM PDT by delphirogatio
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To: last american
How many women "marry down" ???

Some, in our group we have or had two women who one could say "married down" one is an engineer, and former enliste Army signal corps (at the White House no less) type married to a telephone installer, or something like that. The other is a Software engineer, married to a grounds keeper. Oh, and in both cases the husbands are Hispanic, while the women are not.

Seems to work for them, and it's no ones business but theirs.

70 posted on 05/04/2006 9:13:03 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: delphirogatio

Feminists demanding the right to date men who don't like them reminds me of an old Rodney Dangerfield joke:

"Why bother with marriage? Just find a woman you hate and buy her a house!"


71 posted on 05/04/2006 9:14:13 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
I have two daughters in college (both of whom are very attractive blue-eyed blondes). This guy's picture is not what they report and it's not what I recall from my own college days. Sure, there's a certain amount of sexism and disrespectiing of women, but there's a fair bit of the same from the young women towards men. The culture is coarser than once it was, to be sure, but if what my daughters report is represenative, it's not that much different than it ever was. I read I Am Charlotte Simmons and found little remarkable about it that was not the product of the lack of character training in the students well before they came to the University.
72 posted on 05/04/2006 9:14:22 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: Vision
I am about to send my eldest daughter to college. As you might imagine, this thread is of some interest to me.

I have not read Wolfe's book, but I have discussed its reported contents with my stepdaughters, one of whom attended UC Santa Cruz and one of whom attended Santa Clara University. Their experience was that college students today are not that different from the college students of 30 years ago: sexually active but mostly monogamous.

The author of the posted article seems to think that feminism and overtly sexual advertising and entertainment have caused Americans to objectify and devalue women. Erotic images in the media have certainly become more explicit over the last 60 years or so. Compare the Betty Grable pinups of the 40's to the latest edition of Penthouse. Playboy didn't show pubic hair until the early Seventies, so we've come a long way in just 35 years. It's also true that for some time the dominant theme of American advertising has been "if you use this product, you will get laid by an impossibly attractive person." Sensible people understand the message is nonsense, but they keep buying the products. They do so for the same reason that they are attracted to other erotic images: homo sapiens is a sexual species. Both the male and the female of the species have a primal urge to reproduce. The species would not have survived if this were not true. We have evolved in a way that causes sex to be pleasurable. Had we not done so, we would not have evolved.

However, promiscuity is something else entirely. Nothing in our history of would indicate that promiscuity is a quality that favors the survival of the species. It is in fact becoming even more suicidal. It is therefore pathological. These theories support the ancecdotal evidence of my stepdaughters and my own experience that young Americans are mostly sexual but monogamous.

The author's suggestion that the increased availabilty of erotic imagery has reduced the interest of the American male in most women is just silly. Speaking as a happily married Amrican male, that just ain't true.

73 posted on 05/04/2006 9:14:38 AM PDT by p. henry
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To: Gingersnap

This actually scares me to death. I have an exceptionally beautiful daughter (although she's only 8, she's one of those rare people whose beauty can make people audibly gasp - and it's been that way since she was a baby). On top of that, she's Asian by birth (adopted), and the guys I know who seek out Asian girls either want a servant, or a sex slave. Add to that this university atmosphere discussed here, and, like I said, I'm scared to death.

My only saving grace is that she's somewhat of a tomboy, rarely does she look as she does in the pic in my profile. I gues I can also hope she gets kind of dumpy during puberty ;)

On top of all this, she's EXTREMELY intelligent (tests about 3 grade levels above), so skipping college will not be an option either. One good thing is that, of our two kids, the religious/moral teachings we've given have "stuck" the most with her. So what am I left with? Maybe Wheaton or Oral Roberts?


74 posted on 05/04/2006 9:15:25 AM PDT by Warren_Piece (Smart is easy. Good is hard.)
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To: p. henry

What do you make of his strange opinion of NASCAR?


75 posted on 05/04/2006 9:17:33 AM PDT by Vision ("There are no limits to growth because there are no limits of human intelligence" Ronald Reagan)
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To: Gingersnap

Excellent post!


76 posted on 05/04/2006 9:20:35 AM PDT by najida (Founder of the Contrarian Party....Do NOT argue with me ;))
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To: edcoil

This guy was Michael Jackson's buddy...


77 posted on 05/04/2006 9:22:30 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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To: Vision
What do you make of his strange opinion of NASCAR?

Must be a Kurt Bush fan.

78 posted on 05/04/2006 9:24:05 AM PDT by Warren_Piece (Smart is easy. Good is hard.)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Frankly, I find her comment to simply scream, "brain-dead-and-terribly-nonsensically-entitled" and I want to laugh....and yet when I am old, she and her ilk will be running what little country we have left. Sobering, to say the least.


79 posted on 05/04/2006 9:24:24 AM PDT by delphirogatio
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To: William Terrell

Women have to sell their genes to the available male population, normal reproductive behavior. Looking at the extremes that some of the young women in my town go to, my dog Joahanni is more decimate.


80 posted on 05/04/2006 9:27:13 AM PDT by Little Bill (A 37%'r, a Red Spot on a Blue State, rats are evil.)
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