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Democrats To Campaign With Arnold, Laud His Role In Big Bonds Passage
New West Notes ^ | 05-06-2006 | Bill Bradley

Posted on 05/06/2006 8:10:07 PM PDT by Amerigomag

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To: Carry_Okie

Teh only polls that matter are on election day.

And history PROVES that conservatives CANNOT get elected in CA for statewide office, because they only get the votes of the 34% Republicans, while the remaining 66% votes for the Dem.

You do NOT win elections with 34% of the votes.


21 posted on 05/06/2006 9:24:05 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion

lol.. coming from you , that is laughable,, like it mattered who won the GOP primary last time around..

why don't ya kick Bill Simon a few times like you and others have in the past. was that just sending a message after the golden boy Rairdon got shut down? that must have really soiled the New Majority's shorts to no end, huh?

What will you do after the New Majority pooches this election? They are well on their way, it would seem, being as they now embrace their dem "opponents" for the approval of "the Bond Package that will "save" California"...


22 posted on 05/06/2006 9:32:31 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: NormsRevenge

Teh choice for CA governor is:

A) ARNOLD (Republican, pro-business)
B) Angelides or Westly (Socialist Dems)


You have to pick one, if you don't, choice B is the default.

All you do is bash Arnold and the Republicans, and never say a single critical word about the Dems, it's obvious that with all your rethoric, you knowingly are helping Angelidea and Westly. Your words and actions speak for themselves.


23 posted on 05/06/2006 9:42:49 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion
And history PROVES that conservatives CANNOT get elected in CA for statewide office, because they only get the votes of the 34% Republicans, while the remaining 66% votes for the Dem.

Oh, I see, FO thinks conservatives shouldn't run for office because "moderate" Republicans like FO won't let them win.

They said the same things to Reagan.

Now they destroy his legacy while wrapping themselves in his rhetoric to get elected.

24 posted on 05/06/2006 9:44:06 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Amerigomag
With evident amusement, Perata recounted what a Republican legislator told him of one Schwarzenegger/Schmidt private session with their fellow partisans. “The governor laid out the stakes, very directly.” And Schmidt? "... He was like Frank Nitti. (Al Capone’s "enforcer.")”

And thanks to the Frank Nitti approach, despite the fact some of these ridiculous bond packages could have been blocked given the 2/3 majority required to pass, Republican legislators abandoned the pay-as-you-go proposal with many opting to abstain entirely from voting and yet others actually voting for such "investments" as housing for farmworkers and other pork-filled projects. See the full "hall of shame" here.

25 posted on 05/06/2006 9:44:26 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Carry_Okie

Why are you calling me a "moderate", because I prefer to elect Republicans, instead of Democrats?

And you are calling yourself a conservative, because you want to take actions, which will inevitably result in Dems getting elected?

What's wrong with this picture?


26 posted on 05/06/2006 9:46:02 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion; calcowgirl; Carry_Okie; NormsRevenge; Amerigomag; SierraWasp
"You do NOT win elections with 34% of the votes."

That's close to the conservative base. Think you can win without that 34%?

You're about to get the opportunity.

27 posted on 05/06/2006 9:46:11 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Carry_Okie

The voters of California decided to recall governor Gray Davis by a 5 to 4 margin (55.4% in favor of recall vs. 44.6% against recall).

There were more votes for Schwarzenegger than for the next three candidates combined, including fellow Republican McClintock.

There were also more votes for Schwarzenegger than votes against recalling Davis (some were concerned beforehand that Davis' replacement might not reach this level).

Voters elected Arnold Schwarzenegger to become Davis's replacement by a plurality of 48.6% to runner-up Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante's 31.5%.

MC Clintock got 13.5%



prop 209 was in 1996

prop 227 in 1998

prop 187 in 1994

prop 22 homo marriage always loses, every where.


28 posted on 05/06/2006 9:47:51 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Czar

Great! "Show us"

Cut off your nose to spite your face, elect socialist Dems. Obviously THAT is what you want.


29 posted on 05/06/2006 9:50:17 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: ansel12
There were more votes for Schwarzenegger than for the next three candidates combined, including fellow Republican McClintock.

With McClintock having the highest favorable rating of any candidate.

The assertion was that Arnold was the only candidate who could have won. It was false. Deal with your guilt some other way.

30 posted on 05/06/2006 9:51:54 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Amerigomag
If the Austrian should switch his party registration. California will never be rid of this liberal interloper.

I wish he would switch his party registration because that would make statements like this one less frequent:

“The governor,” the Senate Democratic leader (Don Perata) says, “was very engaged at the end. He played a big role in getting Republican votes.”

31 posted on 05/06/2006 9:52:43 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: dr_who_2

Something everyone is missing here. This money is for infrastructure; not for welfare, teaching Spanish in the California Assembly, building a gay marriage chapel or grants for 10,000 taco stands in Southern Cal.

Maybe the infrastructure needs some attention.


32 posted on 05/06/2006 9:55:50 PM PDT by no dems (A Winning Campaign Theme for a Conservative in '08: "PUTTING AMERICA FIRST")
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To: Carry_Okie

Thank you. Take care. Lots of "Vichy French" conservatives prowling around for some reason.


33 posted on 05/06/2006 9:57:16 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: Carry_Okie

"Deal with your guilt some other way."

Well one of us clearly has some strong emotions we need to get under control, but thanks for your concern.


34 posted on 05/06/2006 9:59:06 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Carry_Okie
That's a great post, although I do take exception to one thing:

Don't give us ‘California is a liberal state’ until you know what you are talking about. The problem is a gerrymandered legislature, not the voters.

Boxer, Feinstein, Gore, Kerry - - there's a whole lot of goofballs, parasites, and scumbags casting votes in California.

35 posted on 05/06/2006 10:00:17 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: no dems

"Maybe the infrastructure needs some attention."

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You are absolutely right.

CA has the worst roads in the nation. They badly need fixing.

California Tops the List of Worst Roads in the Nation

Dec. 27, 2001--California's rutted, cracked and neglected roads now rank at the bottom of all 50 states in roadway quality and per capita dollars being spent to improve them, according to a new study from Transportation California.

Last year the state's roads were third worst in the nation. With 37 percent of 168,000 miles of state and local roads rated poor, the state has fallen to dead last on the list, according to The Road Information Program, which prepared the study.

``A generation of underinvestment in California's streets, highways, overpasses and bridges has resulted in a shameful deterioration of what once was a showcase transportation network,'' said Larry Fisher, executive director of Transportation California, the state's leading transportation advocacy and public education organization.

http://www.allstays.com/Features/CaliforniaWorstRoads.htm


36 posted on 05/06/2006 10:05:19 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion
But ARNOLD STAYED A REPUBLICAN, because he believes in Republican values.

He ran on a platform of fiscal conservatism and, as demonstrated yet again by the subject thread, jettisoned it all in favor of bigger government and big spending.

Your referring to him as "the Austrian" reflects on your hatred of Arnold, NOT on Arnold.

FO, Arnold IS an Austrian, citizenship he worked hard to obtain.
When he calls himself an "Austrian," is that some sort of self-hate complex?

Schwarzenegger said he "will remain with all my heart a Grazer, a Steierer and an Austrian."
[Source]

37 posted on 05/06/2006 10:06:06 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: no dems

Oddly enough, the head of the federal government has likewise been focusing on the infrastructure in Iraq and Washington DC for several years now, and apparently also wants to build lots of new infrastructure in Lousiana. If the "seal the borders" crowd gets its way, that'll be another infrastructure project. Infrastructure always needs more attention, particularly when the government is put in charge of it, and regardless of whether or not the government in question is going deeper and deeper into debt.


38 posted on 05/06/2006 10:06:27 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: Lancey Howard

"The problem is a gerrymandered legislature, not the voters."


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Arnold tried to fix that too, with Prop. 77, which was defeated by the CA voters.


39 posted on 05/06/2006 10:06:32 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: calcowgirl

Arnold is a US citizen, so he is an AMERICAN, and he is very proud of it.


40 posted on 05/06/2006 10:07:45 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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