Posted on 05/06/2006 8:10:07 PM PDT by Amerigomag
Oooops... it looks like I somehow missed you on that original ping! Sorry!
Anyway, follow the link above and see posts starting at about #9.
Ok, here I go. Then I'm goin ta bednego!!!
No problem. Sorry about my curt response.
I appreciate that you go out and take action on behalf of conservative candidates. I wish there were a whole lot more Tom McClintocks across the country.
By the way, I believe Carry_Okie is a huge Tom McClintock fan as well.
"By the way, I believe Carry_Okie is a huge Tom McClintock fan as well."
It's funny all we have now is McClintock and Arnold.
In 1994 we thought Ex Marine Pete Wilson was too left wing for us (and he was).
Now I wish I could go back to that time.
But like Reagan might have said, you play with the cards you have, and work for a better hand, next round.
Uh huh. Tell me, F.O.: What percentage of California voters chose Republican Bill Simon over Davis?
Don't chicken out.
I don't remember the Simon numbers, but I looked up Davis vs. Lundgren and Lundgren got about 35% of the votes -- i.e. all Republicans voted for him and nobody else. I think Davis got some 56% ofthe votes.
I think Simon vs. Davis was similar.
You can't fight the reality of the demographics.
CALIFORNIA VOTER AND PARTY PROFILES
http://www.ppic.org/content/pubs/JTF_VoterProfilesJTF.pdf
"The Democratic Party currently has an advantage of 1.4 million voters over the Republican Party (7.1 million to 5.7 million) or 9 percentage points (43% to 34%), according to the Secretary of State.
Among those most likely to vote in this year’s elections, Democrats outnumber Republicans by a 7-point margin (44% to 37%), while 15 percent of likely voters are registered as independents.
... the fact that independents are more likely to lean toward Democrats than Republicans (42% to 28%) tends to work to the disadvantage of the GOP in statewide elections."
Unfortuantely for FO, one of those eeeeeeeeeeeeevil "unelectable" conservative Republicans won the Governorship of Rhode Island in 2002 and is expected to handily win re-election. He got the vast majority of independant voters on his side and crossover votes from the socially conservative, pro-life Catholic Dems (none of whom would ever vote for Ahnuld).
YOu want to try for larger letters next time?
Actually, the choices given to votes will look more like this:
A) ARNOLD (CLAIMS he will "bring the buisnesses back" [yeah right], pro-abortion "Catholic", socialist, spend-and-borrow Republican)
B) WESTLY or ANGELIDES (CLAIM they will "bring the buisness back" [yeah right], pro-abortion "Catholic", socialist, tax-and-spend-Dems)
C) CAMEJO (claims he will go after "the corporations", pro-abortion "Catholic", socialist, spend-spend-and-spend-some-more Green)
D) JORDAN (Put Saddam Hussien back in power!!! Kill Whitey!!!)
E) OLIVIER (WILL "bring the buisnesses back", but is also pro-abortion, pro-open borders, and agrees with the above candidates about Saddam)
F) NOONAN (WILL "bring the buisnesses back", pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun conservative)
Davis 47%, Simon 42%.
As I said, Davis won handliy.
But either Arnold or a Dem will actually get elected.
So the real choice is between Arnold or the lib Dem.
FYI, Gavin Newsom is quite pleased with your boy.
"Schwarzenegger is becoming a Democrat again, It's a good sign for him and a bad sign for the Democratic Party. He gets it. He's learned his lesson. ... He's running back, not even to the center -- I would say center-left.''
--Gavin Newsom, Mayor of San Francisco
The only way Arnold can get elected, is exactly by running to the center and center left, especially after the failed special election propositions, which revealed him as a strong fiscal conservative.
Then, you wrote: I don't remember the Simon numbers, but I looked up Davis vs. Lundgren and Lundgren got about 35% of the votes -- i.e. all Republicans voted for him and nobody else. I think Davis got some 56% of the votes.
I think Simon vs. Davis was similar.
Finally, in answer to my asking you what percentage voted for Bill Simon over Davis in 2002, you wrote: Davis 47%, Simon 42%. As I said, Davis won handliy.
Nice try at face-saving, but you didn't make it. You actually thought Gray Davis not only won a majority of the 2002 vote, you thought he won "handily." Now, for the truth, F.O.:
On Friday, November 1, 2002, four days before the election, the always Demo-tilted Field Poll projected Davis with 41% of the vote, Simon with 34%, and a whopping 17% undecided.
The always Demo-tilted San Francisco Chronicle reported in its November 6, 2002 post-election edition that Davis had won a "tight race":
"Handily." Yeah, right. To paraphrase Tommy Lee Jones as Marshal Sam Gerard in The Fugitive: "Do you want to change your bull---- story, sir?"
Los Angeles -- Gov. Gray Davis, after a caustic and costly campaign that tested the patience of state voters, won re-election Tuesday night, squeezing out a surprisingly tight victory over Republican businessman Bill Simon.Simon called to congratulate Davis on his victory at 11:40 p.m. and an upbeat and relieved Davis finally came out of his hotel room to speak to cheering supporters just before midnight.
(snip)
[B]ack-and-forth, razor-thin margins in the early vote count were a surprise for Davis, who for months had confidently predicted a double-digit victory.
In recent days, [Davis' political director Garry] South had scaled back the optimism and said Davis would win by 8 to 12 percentage points. Anything less, he added, "would be a disappointment."
Simon rolled up big numbers in California's interior, a growing Republican stronghold, but it wasn't enough to overcome huge Democratic margins in the urban Democratic strongholds of Los Angeles and the Bay Area.
Good job, Smithee... Excellent work!!!
Schwarzenegger is what the GOP - as a party - wants to become.
Far from being a fraud, he is the truth of what the GOP will be in the future without a serious change of direction. We need a new "morning in America" if we are not content to see the GOP implement a mostly-Democrat agenda.
The Republican and Democrats are OFFICIALLY exactly the same parties.
The FairOpinion account is working overtime to cloak the truth. Notice the seemingly innocent duplication "lib Dem". That wasn't an accident. It was the only phrase the FairOpinion account could use with any honesty.
If not familiar with California politics here's why: There are three, principal, gubernatorial candidates going into the partisan primaries:
1) Phil Angelides - a socialist
2) Arnold Schwarzenegger - a liberal
3) Steve Weslty - a liberal.
That's two liberals and a socialist. No moderate or conservative. Of course, there is a choice between a liberal and a socialist but no alternative that repugnant circumstance. Regardless of who wins, and it won't be Angelides, California will have a liberal governor in the next election cycle.
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