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......< "Once an illegal alien is apprehended, they can request counsel," he said. "We have to give their counsel the information about their apprehension, and that includes where they are apprehended, whether a Minuteman volunteer spotted them or a citizen."

Martinez said Mexico's official perception of the civilian groups is that they are vigilantes, a belief the Border Patrol hoped to allay by entering into the cooperative agreement>........

IT SEEMS BOTH TH US GOVERNMENT AND THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT CONSIDERS THE'MINUTEMEN'...'VIGILANTES'.

1 posted on 05/09/2006 6:21:27 AM PDT by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike

No wonder Bush's poll number are in the tank among us Conservatives...!


26 posted on 05/09/2006 6:42:58 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: IrishMike

So our government is calling Mexico to warn them where not to cross illegally?


27 posted on 05/09/2006 6:43:18 AM PDT by mysterio
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The Minutemen were infiltrated by "skinheads" who are dangerous. This destroyed their image. The Minutemen need a way to "vet" their volunteers.


29 posted on 05/09/2006 6:43:41 AM PDT by griswold3 (Ken Blackwell, Ohio Governor in 2006- No!! You cannot have my governor in 2008.)
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Welcome to the United States of Mexico.

Co-Presidents Bush and Fox.


30 posted on 05/09/2006 6:43:55 AM PDT by Supernatural (Its getting dark, but its not there yet.)
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OK Bushbots: could someone please explain how this can be anything but outright treason.


33 posted on 05/09/2006 6:45:40 AM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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" A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman confirmed the notification process, describing it as a standard procedure meant to reassure the Mexican government that migrants' rights are being observed"

If there was any doubt to "our" gov'ts position this clarifys it.

Absolutely traitorous,no other way to describe it.

35 posted on 05/09/2006 6:46:44 AM PDT by Kakaze (I'm now a single issue voter.....exterminate Al Quaida)
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To: IrishMike

This really needs to be under Breaking News - I had it there but it got pulled as a dup.


36 posted on 05/09/2006 6:46:48 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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This ... simply makes two basic statements -- that we will not allow any lawlessness of any type...

How funny is that? If USA Today/Gallup were to poll me today, I too would give President Bush a negative rating.

41 posted on 05/09/2006 6:47:58 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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From that "dusty old document" written by "evil old men."

That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive to these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

The pubbies are gonna take a BIG hit in November. They could loose the House and the Senate at this rate.

50 posted on 05/09/2006 6:51:08 AM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, Minuteman Project AZ 2005, Texas Minutemen El Paso, Oct and April 2006)
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"We have to give their counsel the information about their apprehension, and that includes where they are apprehended, whether a Minuteman volunteer spotted them or a citizen."
Uh...I believe that is the same. The Minutemen are citizen volunteers.
Many times, we were told not to go out to Minuteman calls.
Well, there you have it. Can't have the citizens helping in this endeavor. This is sickening.
"Now we know why it seemed like Mexican officials knew where we were all the time," said Chris Simcox, founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps. "It's unbelievable that our own government agency is sending intelligence to another country. They are sending intelligence to a nation where corruption runs rampant, and that could be getting into the hands of criminal cartels.

"They just basically endangered the lives of American people."
Simcox is spot on with these comments. Like I said, it is sickening and clear that elements of our own government do not want this problem resolved or assisted by American citizens who are patriotic and trying to help. Begins to make one wonder just exactly what it is that they are afraid of.
51 posted on 05/09/2006 6:51:18 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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Bush administration has got to change NOW !!!!


55 posted on 05/09/2006 6:52:19 AM PDT by Jimbaugh (Fear the Base !!!)
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Did you see this?


60 posted on 05/09/2006 6:53:34 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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WOW! Your government in action.

I know it's off point, but can anyone tell me....

All the businesses and factories which were moved to Mexico and intended to screw American labor and give Mexican labor the chance to build things under NAFTA & GATT....

If all that was so good for America (and especially good for Mexico), why the heck are all the Mexicans coming HERE?

None of this New World Order crap makes any sense unless you are a millionaire+ who can move money around to suit changing economic conditions.

65 posted on 05/09/2006 6:57:08 AM PDT by FixitGuy
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OK. It ius beyond obvious now. The Border Patrol is part of Homeland Security which is under the Executive Branch of government. Based on this report, this indicates Bush is essentially in colusion with Fox to ignore U.S. security, ignore immigration law and expidite the entry of illegal aliens into the U.S. While Bush is securing Iraq's border's, he is leaving the U.S. border wide open.

Let's face the music. The current administration will not do anything to secure the U.S. border. In fact, they will undermine any effort to do so.

67 posted on 05/09/2006 6:57:52 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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Next up: We will hear that the "nuclear football" has been turned over to China for safekeeping - and they have changed the access codes. [every day day I read the news out of DC and the blood pressure rises- who needs caffine anymore?]


68 posted on 05/09/2006 6:58:09 AM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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Is there anyone here on this thread who can get this info to Rush for his show today?


71 posted on 05/09/2006 6:58:55 AM PDT by rodguy911 (.)
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the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen -- and telling the Mexican government where they are.



Our government would appear to be in open revolt against the will of the people. Now what do we do about it?


72 posted on 05/09/2006 6:58:59 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (I love coffee....I love it GOOD!)
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TREASON...


74 posted on 05/09/2006 6:59:35 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I believe that all government is evil, and that trying to improve it is largely a waste of time.)
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The fact that this info is made public...tells me that this is an intimidation tactic by the Border Patrol (the Bush Admin) against the Minutemen.

Boggles the mind. Call me, USAToday, and we'll make it 29%.

75 posted on 05/09/2006 7:00:03 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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That's fine. All my RNC money is now going to the minute men.


76 posted on 05/09/2006 7:00:05 AM PDT by Vision (Newt/Pence '08)
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