DNA Tests Confirm Bear Was a Hybrid

Associated Press via Earthlink News ^ | Staff

[VadeRetro]

Nice rack.

[VadeRetro]

It depends on how you interpret the evidence...

For YECs it's mostly how you refuse to see the evidence.

[nmh]

"I had a cat that was half bobcat, half house cat. It happens out the woods sometimes."

Neat!!!! Any pictures you can post? Sounds nice.

It sure does!!!

And why I rejected that the bear thing is so startling. It happens!!!

[Antique Gal]

That was really bad!!!!

[Sensei Ern]

It's coming right for us!

[Roccus]

MIX-N-MATCH animal PING!

[nmh]

"For YECs it's mostly how you refuse to see the evidence."

LOL!!

I see the evidence very clearly and also the flaws of the hypothesis of evolution as well as their faulty data methods. I don't know what a YEC so skip the labels here. And again, your very posted article defies what you still wish to believe - that hybrids are not possible or unusual. You've seen a couple people here, point out OTHER HYPREDS that just don't fit into your required formula for a hybrid ... and STILL YOU TRY TO DENY IT.


Let the EVEIDENCE of hybrids, in the wild, speak for themselves. I highly recommend your revisit the worn out hypothesis of evolution. People aren't buying it anymore.

Have a good day.

[two23]

"Im sorry, but I own many guns and love to shoot. BUT hunters who kill for SPORT, for the high of killing something just to kill, have a SERIOUS mental problem IMO. Makes me sick.

All legal hunting and fishing activities are "sports". Some hunt and fish for recreation and meat, some hunt and fish for "TROPHIES". I own firearms and at this point in my life, have little interest in hunting sports, but I don't deny others. It does ruffle me a little when I see photo's of trophy-hunting kills, but if it's legal, I can just choose not to be one.

[MeanWestTexan]

Over $50,000, in fact.

[KoRn]

[P8riot]

I dated a woman who was half Cajun half Cherokee for a while, and I survived. That was WILD!

[VadeRetro]

For example, red blood cells found in the tissue of a T rex just don't last millions of years.

Indeed they don't.

1. The reports of the soft tissue, though remarkable, have been sensationalized further. The tissues were not soft and pliable originally. The tissues were rehydrated in the process of removing the surrounding mineral components of the bone (Schweitzer et al. 2005). Moreover, it is unknown whether the soft tissues are original tissues. Fossil flexible tissues and nucleated cells have been found before in which the original material was not preserved (Stokstad 2005).

2. The age of fossils is not determined by how well they are preserved, because preservation depends far more on factors other than age. The age of this particular bone was determined from the age of the rocks it was found in, namely, the Hell Creek Formation. This formation has been reliably dated by several independent methods (Dalrymple 2000).

3. DNA has never been recovered from any dinosaurs nor from anything as old as them, and researchers do not expect to find DNA from these soft tissues (though they can still hope). DNA has been recovered, however, from samples much more than 10,000 years old (Poinar et al. 1998), even more than 300,000 years old (Stokstad 2003; Willerslev et al. 2003). If dinosaur fossils were as young as creationists claim, finding soft tissues in them would not be news, and recovering DNA from them should be easy enough that it would have been done by now.

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC371_1.html

There is absolutely NO reason to NOT accept that other hybrids are out there - just as your posted article states.

I am nowhere claiming that no other hybrids will be found. I am claiming that the variable degrees of genetic relationship to be found in nature form a continuous spectrum, the very opposite of your claim. There are no distinct created kinds. That's what I'm saying. There's a full spectrum of relatedness which is just what you expect if the tree of life is a real tree of common descent.

[VadeRetro]

I see the evidence very clearly and also the flaws of the hypothesis of evolution as well as their faulty data methods.

I don't know any YECs who don't argue principally by bludgeoning with their own pig-ignorance. You are no exception.

[P8riot]

Damn there I go with sentence structure again.

I dated a woman who was half Cajun half Cherokee for a while, and I survived. That was WILD!

The rest of the time she was asleep.

[MeanWestTexan]

"Does that mean that they're not different species, but rather different "races" of the same species?"

It is certainly a very strong indication, but not conclusive.

For example, while EXTREMELY rare, donkey and horses and zebras can have fertile offspring (mules, et al are overwhelmingly infertile) --- and each species has pretty distict chromosomes.

[azhenfud]

SEE! Evolition works.

[mikrofon]

The parents probably met at a Klondike Bar

[MeanWestTexan]

"half Cajun half Cherokee"

Being half French and half Cherokee, I bet she surrendered to fire water pretty easily.

[MeanWestTexan]

"I don't know any YECs who don't argue principally by bludgeoning with their own pig-ignorance."

Apt description.

They know neither the Bible they claim to love, nor the science they hate.

[VadeRetro]

I could have mentioned their "militant, obstinate amnesia" as well, which is why every crevo thread turns into every other one.