China and Russia reject joint statement on Iran nuclear program-(our buds)

afp ^ | 6/13/06 | Michael Adler

[Jeff Head]

For us, the two (Russia and Red China) getting closer and closer is a worse scenario. And that is what they are doing.

Just the same, make no mistake. Even the Soviets were very concerned about China, and that was before they began their economic and military modernization.

Despite the number of hungry, China is working with a huge imbalance that is netting them tremendous leverage and capital. They are using it to modernize and seek economic self sufficiency. With their new economic model (which is almost fascist pn natrue IMHO) they have the potential of becoming an economic and manufacturing power house.

That is a dangerous potenital. And one we'd best watch closely.

My point is, that the threat to Russia exists and is real. The Soviets recognized it and respected it when the Red Chinese were far less capable. Therefore, whatever the likelihood, the potential threat has increased as Red China has modernized and increased its own capabilities even as Russia has lost so much of its own.

That's all.

[strategofr]

"My point is, that the threat to Russia exists and is real. The Soviets recognized it and respected it when the Red Chinese were far less capable. Therefore, whatever the likelihood, the potential threat has increased as Red China has modernized and increased its own capabilities even as Russia has lost so much of its own."

I don't doubt that the Chinese threat is real and at the Russians recognize it now and in the past. That said, I happen to believe Golitzen, who was a high-ranking KGB agent present, he claims, and helping to organize meetings in Moscow from 1957-1960 that included communist party leadership from around the world.

According to Golitzen, the Chinese and Russians at that time patched up their earlier dispute---which actually arose from Stalin's desire to completely control all communist parties in the world. However, Golitzen says, having patched up their dispute in reality, they decided to continue it on a fake basis to fool the West.

Golitzen defected to the US in 1961. One of the things that made his position fall apart was that he opposed Nixon's rapproachment with China---saying the divisions between China and Russia that Nixon thought he was exploiting did not in fact exist. Nixon disagreed, and Golitzen's stock fell (This was only one factor in Golitzen's fall.) (New Lies for Old, ~1985, The Peristroika Deception, ~1995)