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Old Testament Dispute Continues
Decaur Daily ^ | Richard N Ostling

Posted on 08/05/2006 12:35:23 PM PDT by blam

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1 posted on 08/05/2006 12:35:25 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


3 posted on 08/05/2006 12:36:25 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Biblical references have gained "new plausibility," they conclude.

Gods Word needs no human "plausibility".

A person believes it - or not.

I believe, and will not argue the point..those that don't can go to..well, we know where they go.

4 posted on 08/05/2006 12:44:21 PM PDT by PattonFan (Not me, I don't believe in paying for the same real estate twice." George C. Scott , "Patton")
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To: PattonFan
I just love all these revisionist "scholars" that think they can rewrite history thousands of years later.
5 posted on 08/05/2006 12:53:50 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't love Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: PattonFan
A person believes it - or not.

While this is true, G-d has always been willing to give signs - including Jesus' miracles.

G-d does not want to make it impossible to disbelieve, but He appears to be willing to "help us in our unbelief."

Shalom.

6 posted on 08/05/2006 1:00:59 PM PDT by ArGee (The Ring must not be allowed to fall into Hillary's hands!)
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To: blam

Sadly this "scholarship" seems motivated by an effort to dismantle or dishonor Jewish people and traditions.


7 posted on 08/05/2006 1:03:09 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: ArGee
G-d does not want to make it impossible to disbelieve, but He appears to be willing to "help us in our unbelief."

Interesting statement ArGee. I see the truth in it, but I don't know why.

Maybe, belief in God with all it implies, is much harder in this age of science.

Regarding the Tree of Knowledge My Husband said "Man is DOOMED to Learn". The more man knows, the less he will believe.

8 posted on 08/05/2006 1:12:04 PM PDT by PattonFan (Not me, I don't believe in paying for the same real estate twice." George C. Scott , "Patton")
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To: Clint N. Suhks
I just love all these revisionist "scholars" that think they can rewrite history thousands of years later

I think it boils down to Ego. The Scholars" of today no longer have original ideas..they are politically motivated to prove thousands of years of faith wrong.

Will they be asking for ice water in hell?

9 posted on 08/05/2006 1:15:19 PM PDT by PattonFan (Not me, I don't believe in paying for the same real estate twice." George C. Scott , "Patton")
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To: PattonFan
Regarding the Tree of Knowledge My Husband said "Man is DOOMED to Learn". The more man knows, the less he will believe.

And, yet, G-d seems willing to deal with us on an intellectual level. In Isaiah G-d says, "Come, let us reason together." When the Apostle Thomas made his famous challenge Jesus met him and allowed him to touch the wounds before declaring that faith without seeing is a blessed faith. When Paul wrote of the Resurrection he went to some trouble to list those who had seen the Resurrected Messiah so those to whom he was writing could check out the story if they wanted to. And Luke records Paul's preaching with phrases like, "Thus, with many proofs, he showed them..."

Science reveals truth. All truth is G-d's truth. The issue isn't what is revealed, but man's desire to interpret that truth in a way that glorifies himself at the expense of G-d.

Shalom.

10 posted on 08/05/2006 1:50:09 PM PDT by ArGee (The Ring must not be allowed to fall into Hillary's hands!)
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To: ArGee
In Proverbs we are told "Blessed is the man who finds wisdom, the man who gains understanding" (3:13)

There are many more scriptures in which God Compels us to THINK, and many more that deals with an ego that believes his thoughts are a matter for glorifying the "self".

11 posted on 08/05/2006 2:24:36 PM PDT by PattonFan (Not me, I don't believe in paying for the same real estate twice." George C. Scott , "Patton")
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To: blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; ...
Thanks Blam.

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12 posted on 08/05/2006 6:03:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, July 27, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: blam

Wow...I just got that issue today...first time that's happened, that I bought a journal on the same day you listed an article from it...


13 posted on 08/05/2006 6:05:46 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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Dead link, but interesting:
Did Joshua Destroy Canaanite Hatzor?
Bridges for Peace
The discovery of several cuneiform tablets at the 800-dunam (200-acre) site over the years points to the likelihood that Hatzor will produce the first ancient archive, other than the Dead Sea Scrolls, ever to be found in the country. Such an archive would shed light on the Canaanite city which, the Bible tells us, Joshua "burnt with fire" (Joshua 11:11) after its king led a federation of cities that battled against the Israelite incursion. More than that, it would shed light on a historically crucial period we know little about.

Ben-Tor has yet to find the archive, but he appears to be getting closer. Until this year, he hoped there might be two archives - one in each of the two palaces identified on the acropolis atop the tel. The late Prof. Yigael Yadin had been the first to identify a palace during his landmark dig at Hatzor in the 1950s, dating it to the 18th century BC or Middle Bronze (MB) period. That [fit] perfectly with the date of the royal archive in Mari, Syria, in which cuneiform messages relating to MB Hatzor were found - the first hint of a possible archive at Hatzor.

However, when Ben-Tor began his excavations in 1990 he came upon a palace near Yadin's which he dated, by means of its ceramics, to a few hundred years later - that is, to the last half of the second millennium or Late Bronze (LB) period. The generally accepted dating of the biblical destruction of Hatzor by Joshua roughly coincides with the date of this LB palace's destruction, the 14th or 13th centuries BCE. This summer, as he probed the area of the palaces, Ben-Tor began to have an uneasy feeling that Yadin, his former teacher, had made a wrong dating and that there was in fact only one palace - his own LB structure.
Heh heh...
14 posted on 08/05/2006 6:13:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, July 27, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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The way ancient history can be mangled by well-meaning historians was demonstrated by Otto F. Reiss in the July 1967 issue of Art and Archaeology Newsletter. In a note entitled "A Forward Look Backward," he imagines what would happen if future archaeologists interpret our stories of World War II the same way our liberal scholars interpret the Bible. Obviously World War II must have been caused by competition between two primitive technologies, since on one side we have an Eisen Hower or "Hewer of Iron," while on the other side was a Messer Schmidt, or "Forger of Daggers." France was involved, but the original name of its hero was forgotten, for he is simply called "de Gaulle," and we all know that Gaul was the ancient name of France. There would be some confusion over "Hitler" and "Himmler," which apparently are two different spellings of the same person's name. The future archaeologist's conclusion? "It adds up to the struggle between true man and death, or between good and evil. A great allegory, to be sure. But historical fact? Certainly not!"
15 posted on 08/05/2006 6:34:46 PM PDT by Berosus ("There is no beauty like Jerusalem, no wealth like Rome, no depravity like Arabia."--the Talmud)
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To: blam

Somewhere in the mix of the Empires of Babylon, Media-Persia, Phoenecia, the Greeks, the Seleucids, the Assyrians and all of the rest....

Some small Clans, Tribes, Families, whatever somehow made a difference because of their peculiar ways... and thus somehow impacted the course of world history for millenia.

An impact that should in no way be unrecognized or unacknowledged by thinking persons.


16 posted on 08/05/2006 6:55:43 PM PDT by Radix (Somehow, my Flux Capacitor got crossed up with my Interocitor.)
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To: PattonFan
"Regarding the Tree of Knowledge My Husband said "Man is DOOMED to Learn". The more man knows, the less he will believe."

We are not doomed because we learn things.

Au contraire, we are all partaking of that fruit, of that tree, and in the end, knowledge shall increase, even as we do not live longer than a day.

That is what it is all about.

Learning, and knowledge.

The knowledge of Good and Evil.

Genesis is the key to all knowledge.

The Commandments to Man in that book, transcend all else.

If you look carefully, with an open mind, you will probably see that is what it is about.

That is in part why Jesus was executed. He so pissed of the religious authorities of his day.

When the leaders queried him concerning the letter of the law concerning the rules of Divorce, he cut them to the quick with his clear rebuke concerning the true meaning of the Law.

Genesis, and the commandments to Adam (and all of us)concerning marriage, divorce, and in reality so much more...(as I said) cut them to the quick.

He undermined their place in God's hierarchy, and they targeted him for that offense.

It is all there in that silly little book that our children are not allowed to learn about because a$$holes are running our public education system.

17 posted on 08/05/2006 7:08:50 PM PDT by Radix (Somehow, my Flux Capacitor got crossed up with my Interocitor.)
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To: Radix
Yet another flaming topic that I cannot possibly win on.I was raised on the New Testiment/King James version indeed. This is my faith and I believe the words I read daily. Sure, I'm a backslider like most but my faith and conscience keeps me focused. The hard part is, keeping my mouth shut while ignorant liberal co-workers slam Christ, Bush, Republicans on a daily basis. When I'm at work, I don't thing about Bush or politics, religion and such. It shows how insane and obsessed the left is about President Bush.
18 posted on 08/05/2006 7:11:00 PM PDT by Phibes
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I was at a party last month for the 4th. My son attended. He is a bit more forceful than I am when face to face. I let folks slide a lot when they profess their ignorance concerning the real world...so out loud. "I support the troops, but not the war."

They are so completely clueless concerning just how ignorant they sound when they make such comments.

Most of the Troops that I know do double takes when they hear such nonsense.

I blame the Schools and the MSM for such garbage. It is clearly an indictment of their complete and utter failure to do what they ostensibly set out to do.

Educate and inform.

It is a shame, that is not happening in our culture.

Posterity is in for a whole heap of trouble.

19 posted on 08/05/2006 7:18:40 PM PDT by Radix (Somehow, my Flux Capacitor got crossed up with my Interocitor.)
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To: blam

i have no dog in the fight over the religious issues many focus on, but time and time again I have found the Old Testament to be an excellent historical source. I don't doubt there is some embellishment on certain topics, which is an entirely smaller scale of distortion than some want to make out.


20 posted on 08/05/2006 7:42:34 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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