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Here's how Mel Gibson can make amends
Toronto Star ^ | 5 August 2006 | Shmuley Boteach

Posted on 08/05/2006 2:06:47 PM PDT by Hal1950

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To: Hal1950

Boteach has been known to make some pretty horrendous, scurrillous anti-Catholic hate-speech himself. I guess it takes one to know one. Among other things, Boteach unrepentently continues to repeat the lie that Pius XII was in part responsible for the Holocaust because he didn't prevent the Holocaust. And, as is clear from the article, he calumniated Gibson's film by falsely accusing the film of anti-semitism.

Boteach is far worse than Gibson because he's unrepentently filled with hatred for Christians--and he gets to pick which ones--he's the arbiter. It would take a lot to match Boteach's Chutzpah in the art of condescension toward Christians.


21 posted on 08/05/2006 2:36:00 PM PDT by Dionysiusdecordealcis
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To: ShadowDancer
>God, I am so tired of this crap

If Hollywood did
give the public what it wants
right now they should take

the media pair
Tom Cruise and Mel Gibson and
a really big jar,

put them both inside
and shake up the jar real hard
then film Mel and Tom

fighting to the death.
Then, what the hell, the winner
will be forgiven!

22 posted on 08/05/2006 2:42:05 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: MikefromOhio
"I'm not the one writing articles about him. These people are. I'm just saying what he will have to do to get back into their good graces if he wants too."

Why should Mel Gibson give a fvck what "these people" think of him?

"These people" who are so critical of HIM can never seem to bring themselves to criticize "Shake" Nasrallah whose avowed goal is to obliterate all Jews - they can't even bring themselves to call him a Terrorist!

23 posted on 08/05/2006 2:43:21 PM PDT by Redbob
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To: Hal1950

This one's easy. To make amends, mel gibson can just stfu already.


24 posted on 08/05/2006 2:43:37 PM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: Hal1950
There are three things a Jew needs to do to right a wrong and be forgiven. He must pray. He must fix what he has broken, if possible. And he must make restitution.

We do not know if Mel wrote or even thought those apologies. The second one was to us, the Jewish people. Since it was so personal, I think I will forgive him when he does the things he must to prove he wrote and meant the apology. And not before.

Without people who felt as he does, Hitler would have been thrown out of power. Mel's beliefs can be dangerous. He is in a position to persuade.

25 posted on 08/05/2006 2:45:35 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Mjpaco
It looks like a shakedown in the making. A la Jeese Jackson.

I think you are right, sad to say.

26 posted on 08/05/2006 2:46:17 PM PDT by GinaLolaB
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To: Paperdoll

The Council of Foreign Relations caused "all wars?" Are you serious? They didn't begin until 1921, by the way. How did they manage to start WW I?


27 posted on 08/05/2006 2:46:36 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Knowledge is power, so the MSM makes sure the terrorists have our classified info.)
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To: Mjpaco
It looks like a shakedown in the making. A la Jeese Jackson.

Hang on to your wallet, Mel.

28 posted on 08/05/2006 2:48:58 PM PDT by GinaLolaB
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To: Hal1950

It's clear Mel has "issues" - but he has acknowledged he has a problem and seems to be trying to do something about it. On the other hand, many of those who are pilloring him do far more damage to Jews - such as supporting the enemies of the Jews, bearing false witness against Jews, etc. They are more "refined" in their language, but more harmful in the long run.

Some examples? The media who accept at face value the propaganda of Hizb'Allah and run puff pieces on Nasrallah; the Hollywood leftists; the Democrat Congresspeople, academics, and diplomats who make excuses for anti-Semitic dictators and sneak anti-Semitic canards into their conversation. Since when have these people ever admitted they have a "problem"?

These people are smug, sanctimonious hypocrites. That they should be piling on Mel Gibson is nauseating. They occupy a far lower place in the hierarchy of sinners than Mel Gibson.


29 posted on 08/05/2006 2:49:18 PM PDT by BusterBear
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To: ShadowDancer
"And, of course, he spent $25 million (U.S.) of his own money arguing that the Jews killed Jesus."

Was that comment in this article posted here?

I tend to read fast and admittedly I often miss a few things. It is a flaw that I continue to work on. I can only get better.

If, on the other hand, you are contending that "The Passion of the Christ" was a work designed solely to criticize Jews for profit, then you might consider taking a number while you wait for your case to be dealt with by historians and generations to come.

Meanwhile, you also might consider actually reading what the Gospels have to say about such matters, and then you can engage yourself in an assault mission against the authors of those antisemitic versions of historical occasions which were originally reported by...get ready....Jews!

Mel Gibson may be among the lowest of men in the history of the world. Indeed, still, to my knowledge he has not been busy lobbing ordnance into the backyards and neighborhoods of Israeli citizens indiscriminately.

Get a grip.

Making a movie, is not ordinarily an indictable offense.

Whatever Gibson's beliefs are, or true nature is, he has I read apologized for his rantings.

Woefully, we can't honestly say the same for the German populace at large, or others who were actively complicit in one of the greatest crimes against humanity of all time.

Perhaps I'll later consider chastising America for the arguable support and propping up of despotic regimes. Those regimes which are currently engaged in crimes against humanity. Engaged with impunity, and tolerated solely because they have their hands on the spigots of a natural resource which propels our economy,(and the world's) and is largely responsible for the advent of virtually all modern technologies.

Mel Gibson has sought redemption for sins that probably never should have been made public.

Would you have your words strewn about the Internet each time that you have misspoken?

30 posted on 08/05/2006 2:51:11 PM PDT by Radix (Somehow, my Flux Capacitor got crossed up with my Interocitor.)
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To: VoiceOfBruck

Didn't Hitlery use the term "F_____ Jew" in public? I seem to recall that from the dark days of slick's presidency.



Yeah but thats ok. She is a democrat.


31 posted on 08/05/2006 2:52:00 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: digitalbrownshirt

Notice that I completely ignored it. It's a cheap shot that the author thinks will get people mad. Unfortunately it works very well on FR. I just ignore such things.

From what I can gather, there aren't any normal people in Hollywood, but Hollywood doesn't have the monopoly on jerks. Just look at the trolls we get here :)


32 posted on 08/05/2006 2:52:05 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq)
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To: Redbob

He's the one who apologized.

I'm just saying that no verbal apology is going to work.


33 posted on 08/05/2006 2:52:43 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq)
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To: NorCalRepub; Bommer; ShadowDancer

34 posted on 08/05/2006 2:56:38 PM PDT by Hal1950
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To: Hal1950

A nutty Muslim shoots six people in that Seattle Jewish Center and all anoyone seem to rant and rave about is what an actor "said". The MSM still has their priorities straight!! Sickening.


35 posted on 08/05/2006 2:59:29 PM PDT by PhillyRepublican
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To: kstewskis; Victoria Delsoul; NYer
First, all those who defended The Passion of the Christ as a benign movie about the death of Jesus ought to do some real soul-searching. This defamatory movie repeated the oldest and most destructive lie ever told, that the Jews killed god.

Sorry... no soul searching here.

Don't think it was the Amish that plotted with Judas and Caiaphas to bring Jesus in for questioning.

All Catholics that I know never looked upon the Jewish faithful to place blame of the death of Jesus. He went on his own accord.

The sentence that tries to show that blame was thrust upon the Jews shows absolute ignorance of Christ's redemptive act, and ignorance of the Gospels. The author needs to get a grip.

Enough already.

36 posted on 08/05/2006 3:00:05 PM PDT by Northern Yankee ( Stay The Course!)
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To: Reagan Man

I don't subscribe to the "what you say when you're drunk is how you really feel" line.

Here's why-

When someone is drunk, they often say what comes to their mind at the moment, and one loses the sense of right and wrong that they normally have. If the premise were true (that drunken rants are what one really feels) then every drunken college guy in America really is in love with that stripper they took home last night.


37 posted on 08/05/2006 3:05:17 PM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: Hal1950; All

Why is this still news? Who cares what an ACTOR thinks??


38 posted on 08/05/2006 3:06:15 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: Hal1950

I gotta laugh my @ss off at the notion of Michael Jackson's spiritual advisor making offering advice to anyone on how to "make amends."


40 posted on 08/05/2006 3:08:25 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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