Not even Hillary is liberal (evil?) enough for Ithaca

Federal Review ^ | Tuesday, August 08, 2006

[Behind Liberal Lines]

Tell you what: bookmark this thread and update us in about a year as to just how 'succussful' they've been at making friends and influencing people in the City of Evil.

[lilylangtree]

Gotta give the hildebeast credit: she knows which way the wind is blowing and she adapts. She's a chameleon.

[twigs]

as they learn that you (a polite, friendly, helpful educated person who speaks in complete sentences) have conservative convictions, this process of discovery changes them, not you, as you break the stereotype they've been given

So true! My friends moved to Ithaca a year ago and love it more than when they moved. Not only have they gotten involved in church, but they've gotten involved with "liberal" issues. They work in some type of soup kitchen. They are getting to know their neighbors. And they deliberately moved close to campus to see if they could eventually get involved in some ministry with them. They love their new community because it's small and that suits them. They're empty-nesters, so they are giving to the community. Even though they come from a more conservative area (Bucks County, PA), they are much happier in Ithaca.

[wbill]

As a woman and registered Democrat, I want my, not George's, interests represented

Jeez, I never thought that I'd agree with a moonbat...but she's right. Clinton is an elected represenative, and it's her job to represent her constituents, no matter how foolish, out of the mainstream, and whacko they are.

However - you're right in that this Sulzman person EVENTUALLY would seek to impose her own views on everyone else.

So, I guess that I agree with her, but for completely different reasons.

[Behind Liberal Lines]

So true! My friends moved to Ithaca a year ago and love it more than when they moved. Not only have they gotten involved in church, but they've gotten involved with "liberal" issues. They work in some type of soup kitchen.

They're turning already. They will have a "Hillary" sign in their yard in 2008. Mark my words.

[Behind Liberal Lines]

So true! My friends moved to Ithaca a year ago and love it more than when they moved. Not only have they gotten involved in church, but they've gotten involved with "liberal" issues. They work in some type of soup kitchen.

They're turning already. They will have a "[Dem] for President" sign in their yard in 2008. Mark my words.

[from occupied ga]

wonder so many other villages are having a hard time finding a village idiot, they are all in Ithaca.

You haven't looked in Boston, NY, Baltimore, Washington, Chicago, or San Francisco recently. They are not all in Ithaca.

[Tirian]

been here since before The Gipper took office ....

[dayglored]

> been here since before The Gipper took office ....

I have to chime in at that one.

I've lived outside Ithaca (7 miles west -- but I pay City School taxes) since 1979. I lived within the city limits for a year before that, but found the countryside more appealing.

There are plenty of conservatives once you get outside the city limits -- in fact rural upstate NY is fairly solid conservative -- but as you have to walk gently when you go into town. I love it here. My big front porch flag flies all year round, you can hear sportsmen's gunshots whether it's hunting season or not (target practice, of course), and when I say "God bless you" to a neighbor who's done me a favor, it's returned with a smile.

The city itself is different, of course, and I agree with BLL's assessment. But I find the general rural area is quite amenable to right thinkers, if you avoid the downtown crowd.

[Behind Liberal Lines]

Thas all I'm sayin

[Tirian]

I've lived outside Ithaca (7 miles west -- but I pay City School taxes)

My sincere sympathy! We're in another district with a bit lower tax rate. People moving here from other states are always shocked and stunned (not to mention made poorer) by the local taxes. (Primer for Freepers unfamiliar with this: If your house is valued at $100,000, better budget about $250 per month for taxes.

There are plenty of conservatives once you get outside the city limits -- in fact rural upstate NY is fairly solid conservative -- but you have to walk gently when you go into town. I love it here. My big front porch flag flies all year round, you can hear sportsmen's gunshots whether it's hunting season or not (target practice, of course), and when I say "God bless you" to a neighbor who's done me a favor, it's returned with a smile. The city itself is different, of course, and I agree with BLL's assessment. But I find the general rural area is quite amenable to right thinkers, if you avoid the downtown crowd.

I agree with your assessment (being from rural upstate myself - the saying that Ithaca is "ten square miles surrounded by reality" is true). But careful engagement with members of the "downtown crowd" is possible .. but again it takes time.

[Behind Liberal Lines]

Ithacites continue to attack Hillary as not liberal enough.

Now, former Ithaca City Attorney and former New York State Assemblyman Martin Luster is calling her to task:

Prime examples of Senator Clinton's failure to lead are her actions with regard to the Iraq war. Instead of questioning the administration's discovery of the axis of evil and the president's pre-established plan to invade a country with whom we were at peace to further his scheme of regime change in Iraq, Senator Clinton, along with most of the Congress, speedily, and without investigation of the facts, abdicated its responsibility under the Constitution and granted broad authority to the executive to commence and wage war. To this day, the senator insists that knowing what we now know, that there were no WMD, no connection between 9/11 and Saddam, no purchase of uranium by Iraq from Niger, no post invasion plan, insufficient troop deployment, manipulation of intelligence findings to support the war, a total lack of attention to or understanding of the religious and political situation in Iraq and a child-like belief that there would be insignificant opposition in Iraq to our presence; that more than 2,500 American soldiers have died in this war and that Iraqis are dying at the rate of 100 a day (that's one World Trade Center death toll every month) and that our effort has cost us over $300 billion and that there is no end in sight, that she would have still voted to authorize the invasion. Instead of the bold leadership required by the president's insane compulsion to invade Iraq, Senator Clinton took the easy way out. Instead of using those enormous talents she demonstrated as First Lady and on the campaign trail, she followed the herd.

As I noted at the begining of the thread, when not even Hillary is liberal enough for them, can there by any doubt that Ithaca truely is the City of Evil?

[Scothia]

Tell you what: bookmark this thread and update us in about a year as to just how 'succussful' they've been at making friends and influencing people in the City of Evil.

Our good friends Ray and Gretchen have lived in a rambly green Victorian on State St. in Ithaca for many years. They raised five kids there, who are all productive, godly adults. They were like second parents to our son when we moved from Ithaca to California, greatly influencing him and many other young people--and older people as well--by pastoring a church that met in the Women's Community Building. The church has since been disbanded, or rather, regrouped into other geographical locations and spheres of influence. You can see Ray all over Ithaca, his shock of white hair like a lion's mane, a large red, white, and blue ribbon sticker adorning the back of his modest car. He is also an artist of considerable talent, and part of that local scene without being corrupted by it.

Yes, it can be done, and is. You just won't see their names trumpeted in the Ithaca Journal.