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(video)Florida Police Behaving Badly(shot unarmed protester in the back and laughed about it
abcnews.com ^ | 8 9 06 | abcnews.com

Posted on 08/10/2006 9:24:31 PM PDT by freepatriot32

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To: KJC1

Yes, you seem to be one of the more realistic freepers on this thread. Out of all the freepers posting here, you are not high on the list of candidates for poster of the rude keywords.


281 posted on 08/12/2006 2:29:30 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Replace the battery in your sabre and walk away.


282 posted on 08/12/2006 4:52:30 AM PDT by verity (The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
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To: verity

bzzzzzit zing!


283 posted on 08/12/2006 4:53:22 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: FreedomCalls
Lt. Schwartz [of the Miami-Dade PD said] that the police were pelted with "rocks, feces in plastic bags and bottles of urine." Three officers were admitted to a nearby hospital for injuries sustained during the protests, and the Miami Police Department reports that a total of 18 were injured.

The cop haters don't care about that.

284 posted on 08/12/2006 5:14:53 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: ashamedtobefromparkridge
I don't know where you've been for the last decade or so, but lately, cops arriving on the scene does not improve the situation.

I've made the mistake of calling 911. I've also made the mistake of stopping at the scene of an accident (now known as a "crash") to assist the wounded, dying, and dead.

I will never do any of those things again.

Time for an experiment:

Why don't you just call 911, let it ring once, then hang up?

Give us a report after you've gotten out of jail / the hospital, and put your house back together.

285 posted on 08/12/2006 4:24:31 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: claudiustg
When you see a line of cops in riot gear like that coming down the street, it's a cinch they're not selling raffle tickets!

Truer words have never been spoken.

There is a LT. or Cpt in the Seattle P.D. that is going blind due to being hit with a metal marble from a slingshot during WTO.

286 posted on 08/14/2006 7:32:12 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Life is tough. It's even tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Will_Zurmacht
half of the cops on every force are the best folks you'll ever meet. They are the kinda guys who run towards the WTC and save people. They risk their lives every day making our lives safer.

The other half are nothing more than glorified street thugs themselves. They hide behind a badge and are generally miserable failures as human beings. For these guys a law enforcement career is nothing more than the opportunity to be in a legal street gang, albeit a street gang clad in bad polyester and driving Chevy Impalas.

I've met both kinds.

Actually this is the correct ratio.

75% of cops only answer 911 calls. 22% are proactive and go out and try to catch street criminals. 3% are suck up toadies who end being a Cpt or above.

The ones you think are "legal street gang" members are really those that are trying to take out the trash daily so it doesn't pile up. Half of those will stop doing that after they get screwed by the (a. dept. b. the media c. the public d. any combination of the first three) for actually doing their job.

287 posted on 08/14/2006 7:40:49 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Life is tough. It's even tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Physicist
The special ordinance also outlawed any "coordinated movement" of seven or more people in the street with the intent to gain attention

It said "in the street" as in blocking traffic and causing a safety issue. If you needed an abulance and some losers were protesting IN THE STREET, not in front of some building, and the ambulance could not get to you, you'd have an issue with this.

288 posted on 08/14/2006 7:44:55 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Life is tough. It's even tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: KJC1
I wish I could give a ride-along to someone every day like my last ride along.

I drove through an area that has a gang influence and started pointing out individuals who were gangsters. I specifically pointed out one who has stabbed a person in the neck.

Same said individual sees my rider has avideo camera and I jokingly tell him that if he, "wants to be on COPS, to start running."

2 minutes later it's broadcast that a group of hispanic males tried to carjack someone. Guess who is in that group?

Now that my rider knows some of the context in which I acted when I stopped this group he was not surprised at how I acted. 6 complied and one got very angry and vocal with me. He was grabbed up by me and a little roughly. The video, looked at by a person knowing the whole story, makes me look like a supreme professional. The video looked at by someone who doesn't know what was broadcast and who I was dealing with, makes it look like I just like to push around mexican kids.

And guess what? I joked about it later! That's right, I actually laughed at it when I looked at it later. I guess I'm a jack booted thug now.

289 posted on 08/14/2006 7:53:55 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Life is tough. It's even tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: JLS
it is very unfortunate when the police must use force on a citizen. It is nothing to joke and laugh about.

Boy are you confused. If I end up using force on someone, less than lethal, I always joke about it later. It's called a tension realeaser. When I have to use deadly force on someone, it's my call as to whether I joke about it, curse them, pray for them, spit in their direction, cry, or dance for joy that I survived.

Since it was my life that almost got taken I get the option of choosing which behavior is appropriate.

And it may look bad on video.

290 posted on 08/14/2006 8:11:50 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Life is tough. It's even tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
If you needed an abulance and some losers were protesting IN THE STREET, not in front of some building, and the ambulance could not get to you, you'd have an issue with this.

You're right, I'd be sorely vexed.

Meanwhile, you wouldn't mind at all that your ambulance is blocked by six people in the street with the intent to grill some steaks.

291 posted on 08/14/2006 9:47:55 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: freepatriot32

All I gotta say is somebody could have lost an eye......


292 posted on 08/14/2006 9:52:29 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors - and miss.)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
Boy are you confused. If I end up using force on someone, less than lethal, I always joke about it later.

No you are. You work for the public. GROW UP, JOIN THE ADULT WORLD and don't laugh at the people you work for.
293 posted on 08/14/2006 10:10:46 AM PDT by JLS
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To: JLS

Guess what? I don't work for gang bangers. I work for the straight folk. I grew up a long time ago. Part of growing up means not believing in fairy tales and being based in reality.

For instance, I'm not dying because two gang bangers are shooting at eachother. I'm waiting until the shooting stops and then I'm finding a way to book the surviving banger(s).

I've found someone with their brains blown across the curb over 150 bucks. Everyone knows who did it (the street criminals that is) but won't step forward. Should I die for epeople like that? I know the correct answer.

So when some fool decides he wants to fight and gets tased, hell yeah I'm going to laugh later. So what. Am I supposed ot cry or say, "tsk tsk, what a shame"? I think not.

My priorities are: the safety of myself, other officers, then the general public. In that order. The city does not pay me to die.

My job has risks and I accept that. It doesn't mean I believe TV show cops are how we are supposed to act. Someone shooting up a school house (and active shooter) is the worst case scenario. Guess what? Our dept. policy is that going into that situation is VOLUNTARY.

I may or may not volunteer for that job at that moment, depending on which officers are going in with me and what the shooter is armed with.

Some of the public will be angry if we don't go in but guess what? They won't be reading to my son before bedtime.

We just had an officer killed less that 48 hours ago. Guess how long it will take for the public to forget about him. How about "tomorrow", which is the correct answer.

I don't get paid to take bullets for anyone. The Secret Service does that.


294 posted on 08/14/2006 10:42:39 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Life is tough. It's even tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
Guess what? I don't work for gang bangers. I work for the straight folk. I grew up a long time ago. Part of growing up means not believing in fairy tales and being based in reality.

Yes you do. You work for the public ALL of the public. If a gang banger has a crime committed against them, it is your job to investigate it and I bet you do. Are you claiming that if a gang banger's car is stolen, you tell them it is their tough luck or get the gang to find it for them?

So when some fool decides he wants to fight and gets tased, hell yeah I'm going to laugh later. So what. Am I supposed ot cry or say, "tsk tsk, what a shame"? I think not.

Actually after I responded the last time, I realized I should have pointed out the difference between laughing IN PRIVATE if you want claim such a childish "release" and lauging AS GROUP or cracking wise AS A LEADER of a bunch of other police, as happened in the video we are discussing. Personally, I don't care if you crack wise privately, ie off duty. But clearly you also should remember who you work for and how to be a professional.

My priorities are: the safety of myself, other officers, then the general public. In that order.

Sounds to me like you need a new job. And no I don't care how far you are from a pension. You job is to help protect the public. The safest thing for you do do is get in a squad car and go find some quiet place to park. That is not what the public is paying you to do.

The city does not pay me to die.

Exactly, it costs the public too much if you die and to replace you.

My job has risks and I accept that.

It does not sound like it. You make yourself sound like a park and hide cop.

Our dept. policy is that going into that situation is VOLUNTARY.

Some of the public will be angry if we don't go in but guess what?


I suspect they would be angry if they knew this was policy. That is a problem we the tax payers have with bureaucrats. They tend to make the rules to serve themselves not the public who hires them. It is one of the fundamental problems with government.

They won't be reading to my son before bedtime.

Yep that is a said fact associated with the risks of the job.

I don't get paid to take bullets for anyone. The Secret Service does that.

As I said above, we agree on this one. It is too costly for you to get shot. The public pays you to do the job professionally. Part of that is treating the public with respect and part of it is taking risk. But the public wants you to do that job and avoid the bullets.
295 posted on 08/14/2006 11:23:32 AM PDT by JLS
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To: JLS
Yes you do. You work for the public ALL of the public. If a gang banger has a crime committed against them, it is your job to investigate it and I bet you do.

Yes and no. If a gang banger gets ripped off on a dope deal I don't take a report or search for the "suspect."

If, as if happened last week, 3 prostitutes go into an apt. with 3 guys and one prost. tries to steal a man's wallet, I do investigate and I do hook up the "suspect." And I do take her to jail (kiddie jail in this case as she was 17).

If you think I treat all persons with respect all the time you are living a fantasy. I do not respect, nor do I show respect, to those who try to injure me or my fellow officers. They get as much respect as they earn. Now, does that mean I beat them after they are in custody or steal from them? No. But if, as in one instance last week, a man lies to me about his identity (I was investigating him selling dope) and later that night I figure it out when I stop his brother, and realize he gave me his brother's Identity, well too bad for him. The next time I see him he gets no "please and thank yous." The way to do business with the average citizen is ask them politely, tell them nicely, and then if need be, make them do it. I've had to scream at woman, she is probably a very nice lady usually, when she refused to move out of my way. I was parked across the street from a bar waiting for backing officers to arrive on a brawl inside. She kept ordering me to go into the bar and "do" something. Well I'm not going to go into a brawl by myself. I'll just end up hurt and have to shoot someone. I told her to move in case someone came bursting out with a gun, I didn't want her in between us. She got angry, took 8 steps away and sure enough out comes a turd with a gun. Did I get a, "sorry you were right?" Nope.

And finally, some folks on the street believe that when you say please and thank you, you are weak. It is an invitation for them to assault you. I have to interact with the street culture and that requires understanding how you have to talk to some folks.

Boy you need a ride-along bad. And I'm the furthest thing from a park and rest or park and sleep or whatever it was you called me. I live for contacting the street criminals. I love it and answering 911 calls is just the dues I have to pay to get to do that.

296 posted on 08/14/2006 1:36:34 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Life is tough. It's even tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: dcwusmc

"Good" cops never rally against the BAD cops the same way "moderate" muslims never rally against the militant supremacists.


297 posted on 08/15/2006 8:36:38 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: weegee; ashamedtobefromparkridge

Roger that. I wonder why ashamedtobefromparkridge never bothered to reply? Did I describe HER cop-relatives?


298 posted on 08/15/2006 9:25:01 PM PDT by dcwusmc (The government is supposed to fit the Constitution, NOT the Constitution fit the government!)
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