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Jury says trucker gets no payment [denied because SUV that hit him was driven by suicidal dad]
Orlando Sentinel ^ | August 16, 2006 | Rene Stutzman

Posted on 08/16/2006 3:40:41 AM PDT by Brilliant

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To: Rhiannon

Would his loss be covered by an uninsured motorist clause?


21 posted on 08/16/2006 4:42:47 AM PDT by wolfcreek (You can spit in our tacos and you can rape our dogs but, you can't take away our freedom!)
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To: conservativehusker


The suicide had insurance I would think that would negate under or uninsured and he's right back in the same boat.

BTW this man was going about his business and was involved in an accident through no fault of his own you shouldn't blame him for wanting his medical bills paid and being compensated for his loss. I can't imagine an insurance company not being held responsible for the damages of the driver they insure.


22 posted on 08/16/2006 4:46:26 AM PDT by mistybella
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To: mistybella

Workman's comp probably paid him what it owed, but workman's comp doesn't pay much. If the accident was someone else's fault, then he should be able to collect the difference from their carrier, in addition to what he got from workman's comp.


23 posted on 08/16/2006 4:48:19 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant
Just the fact that someone tried to use you as a murder/suicide device should be worth some pain and suffering. Unfortunately it would probably only hurt the innocent family members of the wacko.
24 posted on 08/16/2006 5:00:30 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Brilliant
That's what I meant. This trucker no doubt went through a considerable trauma. Does this mean he is entitled to unheard of compensation from the other insurance company? I don't think so. The article wants you to feel for the trucker. I do, but everyone lately is singing the 'sue me sue you blues'.
25 posted on 08/16/2006 5:01:32 AM PDT by poobear (Political Left, continually accusing their foes of what THEY themselves do every day.)
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To: poobear

Well, it depends on what the policy says and what the law says. It seems surprising to me, though, that if someone intentionally runs into you in an effort to commit suicide, then you don't have a claim against their insurance company, but if it's an accident, then you do.

Maybe that's the way it is, but I would not assume that is the case simply because a jury said so. Afterall, it's a legal issue, not a factual issue, and it's the judge who decides legal issues, not the jury. The judge let the case go to the jury, so he apparently thought that the legal issue was in the trucker's favor.

The other possibility is that the judge agreed that the policy did not cover suicide, but he wanted the jury to decide whether the other driver was actually trying to commit suicide, or whether it was simply an accident. I suspect that the guy did not leave a suicide note.


26 posted on 08/16/2006 5:11:49 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: poobear; bvw; Young Scholar
Are you people off your rockers. He sued for payment of hi medical bills. He was hit by the insured, in other words the victim. I don't know why his company's insurance didn't cover his bills but it sounds like a screw job the whole way around. I can understand the insurance company not paying to repair his SUV which I assume would have gone to his estranged wife. I CANNOT understand how Progressive could refuse payment for treatment for the surviving son (assuming here), or the truck driver. I guess it is in the policy, but it still sucks.
27 posted on 08/16/2006 5:15:09 AM PDT by thinkthenpost
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To: wolfcreek

<< Would his loss be covered by an uninsured motorist clause? >>

I would think so, but by the trucker's own insurance company. Since the other driver's insurance was revoked due to the suicide clause, the other driver is considered uninsured/underinsured. The trucker went after the wrong insurance company.


28 posted on 08/16/2006 5:19:51 AM PDT by cantweall
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To: mewzilla; Sooth2222

This is really sad; I could imagine an accident like this would qualify for some time off, even unpaid.


29 posted on 08/16/2006 5:21:11 AM PDT by cantweall
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To: thinkthenpost

I thought this article was about the trucker who hit the suicidal father and was suing the dead fathers insurance company for medical bills. The trucker's insurance should cover his bills. Correct me if I'm wrong.


30 posted on 08/16/2006 5:21:46 AM PDT by poobear (Political Left, continually accusing their foes of what THEY themselves do every day.)
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To: conservativehusker
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31 posted on 08/16/2006 5:22:45 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: Rhiannon
Insurance covers accidents, not deliberate actions.

Can't pass up that Uninsured Motorist Coverage these days...
32 posted on 08/16/2006 5:23:36 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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I have the uninsured motorist clause but, it does cost extra in Texas. Sounds like this guy might have opted out due to his financial situation.
33 posted on 08/16/2006 5:24:32 AM PDT by wolfcreek (You can spit in our tacos and you can rape our dogs but, you can't take away our freedom!)
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To: Rhiannon; Brilliant

<< If he didn't, he self insured himself and failed to save for the risk. >>

I agree with self-responsibility, but it is difficult to protect yourself over and above HIGH insurance costs that are mandatory. I don't know why the trucker didn't go after his own insurance company instead, because clearly the other driver's insurance is not responsible for deliberate actions as you mention.

A different wrinkle on this: Does this also mean your own insurance company is not liable when you are the 'recipient' of a terrorist act?


34 posted on 08/16/2006 5:29:47 AM PDT by cantweall
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So are insurers of drunk drivers going to be able to use this to not pay for damages?


35 posted on 08/16/2006 5:30:47 AM PDT by mistybella
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To: bvw; Brilliant

He should sue Randall's estate for pretty much everything, no Progressive auto insurance.


36 posted on 08/16/2006 5:35:04 AM PDT by Little Ray (If you want to be a martyr, we want to martyr you.)
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To: cantweall
A different wrinkle on this: Does this also mean your own insurance company is not liable when you are the 'recipient' of a terrorist act?

Almost without doubt this would be excluded from coverage, just like acts of war, sabotage, etc.

Besides, what's Uncle Sugar for anyway? Isn't that where every victim goes when the insurance company ducks out the backdoor? ;>)

37 posted on 08/16/2006 5:36:11 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: Brilliant

bump for later read...


38 posted on 08/16/2006 5:36:26 AM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of a Cancer on Society)
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To: bvw

Good grief, don't you have a heart? This guy isn't the one who tried to kill himself! And it was his own insurance company that denied his claim because someone else tried to kill themselves and was responsible for this guys injuries. So if someone hits you with his vehicle, puts you in the hospital and causes you to lose your job, you should be denied insurance coverage if the person who did this to you was suicidal? Even if you had uninsured motorist, you would still be denied a claim because it was an attempted suicide. And your health insurance wouldn't pay a dime, again, because the root cause was an attempted suicide. I guess you could carry it all the way to 9/11. No one should have gotten a dime in insurance or government money because it was a suicide attack and no one should profit from suicides, even if they hurt other people? Is that what you are saying? It sounds like it to me. I pray you don't find yourself in this situation and you can pay for someone elses damages out of your own pocket.


39 posted on 08/16/2006 5:37:25 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: sgtbono2002
So the guy is a loser. He waited for an insurance payout. He didnt do anything wrong on the highway,he deserves compensation. If he had been hit by a road rage driver he would be paid off. There isnt that much different.

Frankly....if some idiot used my truck to off himself and his kids.....I probably wouldn't want to go to work the next day either.....I guess you're just a hell of a lot more hardcore than myself.

40 posted on 08/16/2006 5:37:34 AM PDT by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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