What Valerie Plame Really Did at the CIA [Corn]

THE NATION ^ | 9-05-2006 | By David Corn

[hoosiermama]

RE: Under the covers with Wilson on their first date.

What do you call it when the WIlson's make love?







Snake on a Plame.

[Wuli]

With regard to Saddam and WMDs, I think we have a decade and more of CIA incompetence and a liberal CIA political cabal, with both elements acting to both obfuscate the facts and undermine the President, no matter what he did. I can envision Plame and others in the cabal, continuing to run the ten years of CIA positions on Iraqi WMDs AGAINST Bush had he taken the public position that Iraq was NOT a threat. I believe her and her husband were political conspirators and would have been no matter what Bush was doing.

[Enchante]

"We knew nothing about what was going on in Iraq," a CIA official recalled.

.... and this is after 8 years of the brilliant Clintonista/Gorebot administration, which asserted with enormous confidence all sorts of things about Iraq and WMDs..... and failed abjectly to implement the terms of the 1991 Gulf War ceasefire.... and after the Clintonistas and the UN morons allowed Saddam to ramp so up many billions and billions of dollars in "oil for food" without requiring complete outside monitoring and control, etc. etc.

Once again David Cornhole is proved to be a leftist shill for idiots. I'd really like to know how Corn and Isikoff came to be working together on this book - normally even the libs at Newsweak wouldn't be caught dead working so openly with the socialist nutjobs of "The Nation" - but if Joe and Valerie came to their buddy Corn and said "we can get you all sorts of inside dirt from secret leftist sources, but only if YOU control the story and access to said sources, but get a big MSM writer like someone from Newsweak or TIME onboard to give this project credibility..... Corn provided the contacts while Newsweak provided the (supposed) credibility, that's how I read this strange marriage of Corn and Isikoff..... btw, what kind of unnamed CIA officer would even talk to Corn or Isikoff?? Only the VIPS-type nutjobs, that's who.

[ChadGore]

At the end of the day, this is what I know:

1) Iraq had 500 WMDs

2) Uday, Qusay and, Saddam Hussein will never fire another weapon of mass destruction.

3) Bush was right.

[johnny7]

In 1991... even after Iraq invaded Kuwait... Wilson was fully committed to diplomacy and was adamantly against going to war. It's career State Department hacks like him... that have encouraged the Islamo-nazi's into world-wide jihad.

[Wristpin]

And if we didn't attack him...We would still be performing the 24/7 containment. The libs story would be that Bush is a wimp just like his Dad.

[Wuli]

My points were trying to go to the intelligence issues themselves.

I have no problem with the decision to go into Iraq.

There was nothing in the UN resolution that required anyone to find WMDs in Iraq when we went in.

Saddam was required to provide the international community with enough basis, enough clarity, enough transparency, enough active cooperation for the international community to believe no one needed to force the answers out of Iraq.

Saddam did the opposite, preferring that everyone not have all the facts and be required to simply accept his denials in the absence of the facts. He preferred that everyone not be sure that he might still have them and might still use them, if we tried to force the answers, militarily.

Bush rightly determined that post 9/11, we could not simply depend on Saddam's denials. The stakes had become too high.

Now, that said, Bush may have been in a stronger position, either way, if our CIA had not been so feckless for so long.

[Wristpin]

The odd thing is that during the fall of 2002&2003 wrote articles and gave speeches against invasion because he was afraid a cornered Saddam would use WMD on our troops.

They didn't start the Bush Lied mantra until after the WMD issue fell into their laps after the invasion.

[TC Rider]

Elvis's last words as he sat dying on the toilet, "Corn".

I think this deserves investigating.

[Wristpin]

Should be "Wilson wrote articles".

[roses of sharon]

Yes, it is strange that the ENTIRE world's intell was feckless, isn't it?

[roses of sharon]

And Saddam and Son's goons would be in Afghanistan and Lebanon, ect.

[rod1]

This is what happens when one is not knee high by the fourth of July. Corn couldn't tassle if he tried.

[Howlin]

Hubris contains new information undermining the charge that she arranged this trip.

There's your answer: to refute what the 911 Commission said about them.

[Howlin]

Her aim, she told colleagues, was to put in time as an administrator--to rise up a notch or two--and then return to secret operations.

A secret agent with twin toddlers?

[Mo1]

Hmmm .. good catch
I'm tempted to get the book

[TWohlford]

"At the end of the day, this is what I know: 1) Iraq had 500 WMDs, 2) Uday, Qusay and, Saddam Hussein will never fire another weapon of mass destruction, 3) Bush was right."

4) Iraq had 500 metric tons of unenriched yellow cake uranium, and 1.5 metric tons of enriched uranium. In addition, they were trying to buy more during the UN sanctions period leading up to the invasion.

5) Saddam could've ended this game by keeping inspectors happy starting in 1991. In fact, the American troops probably would've been gone long before Dubya took office if the inspectors would've been satisfied.

6) America doesn't care if you're an a**hole to your own people, but it does care if you threaten its economic viability by conquering oil fields.

[Wuli]

To paraphrase Rett Butler:

Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn how well or how poorly other nation's intelligence agencies work. Ours must work well no matter what. Their failures are not valid excuses for ours.

[demkicker]

David Corn, doing what he does best:

[Wuli]

We, the U.S. had not one single human intelligence asset within feet of anyone in or near Al Queda, much less "inside", as late as 1998, if not later. Others did. We were feckless.