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Dream home winner can't afford the bills
AP via N&R ^ | 9/11/06 | ap

Posted on 09/11/2006 5:46:01 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0

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To: alnick

If the contest states a choice between the prize or cash, I’ll enter - but I’d never get the new car sold before the tax man came calling - which is at the time of title transfer.


181 posted on 09/11/2006 12:02:07 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: DB

Actually, he would pay taxes on the contest winnings--$3M. This would become his basis in the house and there would be no capital gains to be taxes if he sells soon. The two year residential rule will not help him here.


182 posted on 09/11/2006 12:06:18 PM PDT by Busywhiskers (Delenda est Hezbollah)
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To: RockinRight

As soon as we satisfy the debt and quit spending what we don't have.


183 posted on 09/11/2006 12:39:43 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Old Professer

I'd be happy with a revenue-neutral consumption tax for now.


184 posted on 09/11/2006 12:40:43 PM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: Busywhiskers

It was my understanding that with the "dream house" give away came cash to pay the initial gift taxes. At least they did do this in the past give aways.


185 posted on 09/11/2006 2:02:18 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

To my recollection no one who has won the dream home has ever been able to afford to keep it.

Sell it, pay taxes and get what you want, where you want for the price you can live with.


186 posted on 09/11/2006 2:05:19 PM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (Thank you Andre!! RIP Steve, your legacy will live on, prayers for Terri, Bindi and Bob.)
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To: DB

We are dealing with the income tax not the gift tax since this is a contest not a gift.

My guess would be that any taxes paid on behalf of the contest winner would also be taxable.

In any case, the winners basis is going to be equal to the fair market value of the prize on which the tax is paid.


187 posted on 09/11/2006 2:29:39 PM PDT by Busywhiskers (Delenda est Hezbollah)
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To: luckystarmom
Well if you can't afford to live in the home, I doubt any one can afford the rent on it either. And it would have to be astronomical just to cover the taxes and insurance on the place. Not worth it. The "Dream Home" turned out to be a White Elephant.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

188 posted on 09/14/2006 3:07:18 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: WV Mountain Mama
I've seen those glossy magazines for the well-heeled at my auto dealership that advertise $6-7 million, $10-12 million properties with stunning views and down to earth refinements. You have to have a certain level of income security to afford the taxes and insurance on those places. Prestige isn't all its cooked out to be. Most of us just have to be content with admiring from a distance, a multi-million dollar view we can never have in this life.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

189 posted on 09/14/2006 3:11:29 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: chuckles
If he was over 62, he could apply for a reverse mortgage to borrow against the house's equity for the expenses. But I think that wouldn't be a viable option because the taxes and insurance alone are prohibitive. Sometimes a luxury home is really a White Elephant.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

190 posted on 09/14/2006 3:17:14 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

He'll be liable for fair market value on the house and property as gross income unless he immediately puts the house up for sale so as to demonstrate intent to sell. Should he sell it for less than fair market value, he should be able to declare a loss for the difference, but will have to pay tax on the gross proceeds of the sale price. If he fails to demonstrate immediate intent to sell and takes up residence, he'll be liable for the full fair market value of the house as gross income.

He's liable in any case not only for federal income, but state income tax as well. Furthermore, there are the property tax liabilty that will need to be addressed. When that chunk of change will be required to be paid I haven't a clue.

Or he can assign the house & property to a tax excempt charitable organization or government unit. He may be able to work out a time share deal with the tax exempt charity concerning residency. A local church may be sufficient in this regard.


191 posted on 09/14/2006 5:44:10 AM PDT by raygun (Whenever I see U.N. blue helmets I feel like laughing and puking at the same time.)
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To: goldstategop
I think as far as renting would go, it would have to be one of those weekly rental deals. I know my family has paid up to $8000 for a week at a beach house. My sister had a home 2 blocks from downtown Park City and did very well. Depending on what is around for people to enjoy, this could be an option. At least he might be able to go to the house for a week here or there when it wasn't rented. A realtor could do projections for him to see if it would be feasible.
192 posted on 09/14/2006 6:53:36 AM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (If Bin Laden were a woman, Clinton would have nailed him every chance he got.)
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To: WV Mountain Mama
If I'm not mistaken, Lake Lure is in the heart of the Blue Ridge Mountains. Gorgeous views. He had his dream home and must have fallen in love with it til reality set in.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

193 posted on 09/15/2006 12:45:25 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: myprecious

In response to the Tyler Tx dream home, the winners of the home are still living happily in the home. They may or may not sell the home. As for someone just staying in a dreamhome that they have just won, for a weekend, or a couple of weeks, it isn't so easy. You HAVE to have ownership of home AND INSURANCE on the home before you can spend ONE night in the home. The winner of the Lake Lure home sold that home soon after winning. Please lets get facts straight before we post, as some of these winners read these boards, even the winner of the Tyler Tx home posts on the HGTV dream home message board quite frequently..Don Cruz and Shelly Cruz. Other winners have posted messages there also.


194 posted on 02/28/2007 12:08:47 PM PST by dreamer22
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To: dreamer22
In response to the Tyler Tx dream home, the winners of the home are still living happily in the home.

Sorry if I misposted. All the local news reporting here near Tyler must have gotten it wrong. I hope the folks live happily ever after in the home. The guy was unemployed and on disability before the win, I am pleased to hear things are better for him.

195 posted on 02/28/2007 9:14:58 PM PST by myprecious
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To: myprecious

It wasn’t just the homeowners association. He actually didn’t own the land his house was on. He only had a 30 year lease of it and was therefore subject to the owners decisions. I enter this contest every year but can’t figure out why they do stuff like this.


196 posted on 01/11/2009 7:22:52 PM PST by charitylmc
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To: Mamzelle

The man who tried to live in his, took out so much in loans to cover taxes and was broke from just trying to live there that he is hoping to just break even. The heating and electric bills are through the roof. Homeowners insurance, insurance on the vehicle, taxes on everything, plus just trying to survive. He ate through his 250,000 winnings and still had to take out a 1,000,000 loan. Regardless of the taxation of the income, you are better off to sell unless you are well off to begin with. Hire a good tax attorney to guide your every move.


197 posted on 01/11/2009 7:22:53 PM PST by charitylmc
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