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Foreclosures spiked in August
CNN.COM ^ | 9-13-06 | Les Christie

Posted on 09/13/2006 7:31:40 AM PDT by Hydroshock

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To: Hydroshock
Over half of the farms in his county were in the rears

Half the farms were in the rears? Was this San Francisco county? It must have hurt to sit down with a farm in the rear. No wonder why farmers were depressed.

81 posted on 09/13/2006 4:52:06 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math and reading?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Half the farms were in the rears? Was this San Francisco county?

This thread is getting extremely gay.

82 posted on 09/13/2006 4:53:25 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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83 posted on 09/13/2006 4:56:18 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math and reading?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

It's getting "Village People" gay.


84 posted on 09/13/2006 4:58:58 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

That's pretty gay.

85 posted on 09/13/2006 5:02:33 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts.)
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To: Always Right
How many hundreds of your predictions have been shown to be wrong?

I think he's predicted seven of the last zero depressions.

86 posted on 09/13/2006 5:02:56 PM PDT by gogeo (The /sarc tag is a form of training wheels for those unable to discern intellectual subtlety.)
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To: zigzag
BTW, just because someone's been discussing this for ages does not make him wrong. Pat Buchanan was laughed-at for proposing a border fence 15 years ago. It just takes some people longer to catch-up.

That's right...and the guy who says I'm gonna die today, is gonna be right, one of these days if he talks long enough.

87 posted on 09/13/2006 5:10:11 PM PDT by gogeo (The /sarc tag is a form of training wheels for those unable to discern intellectual subtlety.)
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To: zigzag
The data I've seen posted by ex-Texan and Hydroshock are solid,

Solidly misleading. Just look at this article trying to strike fear by saying how foreclosures are up 255% in California. Well, because of rapidly rising home values and low interest rates, foreclosures were practically non-existant. Even with this 255% gain, foreclosures are still well below the historical average. They do the same thing with home sales and inventories. Sure inventories are up, but they were at historic lows where homes sold as soon as they were put on the market. Now they are just at normal levels. Hydroshock and ex-Texan only tell half the story and present the data to make it as scary as possible, without putting any historical context to the numbers. We just went through 5-years of the most rapidly growing housing market ever. Of course sales are going to slow. It is just a big DDDUUUUHHHHH.

88 posted on 09/13/2006 5:45:00 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: goalinestan; Hydroshock; M. Espinola
Realtor Spam kills Monterey Craigslist

An excerpt:

"Can't say I'm sorry to see it go because it's getting ridiculous with all the cr*p listings from around the country.... but is it true, on other sites too?

http://monterey.craigslist.org/rfs/206632813.html

So sad...
Spam kills Monterey's real estate Craigslist.

Due to overwhelming spam postings, Craigslist will no longer offer real estate listings as of September 30th, 2006.

this is in or around Monterey Bay no -- it's NOT OK to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

____________

In short, sellers and real estate brokers are getting desperate out there. You heard it here first . . .

89 posted on 09/13/2006 8:35:22 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: ex-Texan
In short, sellers and real estate brokers are getting desperate out there. You heard it here first . .

Or craig's list offered realtors a cheap form of advertizing that they took advantage of. But you are stuck in this gloom and doom mentality so you always see the worst scenerio.

91 posted on 09/14/2006 3:58:12 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: ex-Texan
You heard it here first . . .

4 years ago. LOL!!

92 posted on 09/14/2006 6:21:57 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts.)
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To: Hydroshock
We housing bears are going to be more than happy to buy REO's in the coming years. The "homes" you are stretched out to the max to pay for are declining in value in 99% of the country. It's going to be such a joy to pick off the weakest-positioned desperate sellers in the long-awaited crash. Well, it's here now. Have a nice winter and the winter after that,and the next, because SMART buyers WON'T be buying until prices are at LEAST 30% of what you are asking now.

Don't say you weren't warned, because you were. And I feel ZERO sympathy for you.

Go ahead. Go out and buy the biggest house you can with a no money down negative amortization option ARM loan if you think prices are going up. Best of luck! :)
93 posted on 09/14/2006 5:30:36 PM PDT by Concentrate (Got Dollars?)
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To: Always Right

You should provide data that show how real estate markets always flatten, rather than overshoot the downtrend toward the historical mean in corrections, which is what you seem to be positing. Can you find that data? Until you can, I see you as a real estate industry shill. I'll be waiting for your researched response.


94 posted on 09/14/2006 5:38:44 PM PDT by Concentrate (Got Dollars?)
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To: zigzag; Petronski
Some of us have been tracking the bubble for years

That is one durable bubble. What's it made of, cast iron?

95 posted on 09/14/2006 5:49:06 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Concentrate
You should provide data that show how real estate markets always flatten, rather than overshoot the downtrend toward the historical mean in corrections, which is what you seem to be positing. Can you find that data?

Nationally, housing prices have always gone up, outside of the recession in the early 80's which saw a modest decline in housing prices for a period of about two years. The FDIC has performed the most thorough study booms and bust in metropolitan areas since 1973. Here is an excerpt from the study:

So, must a bust always follow a boom? Based on our look at history, our answer must be "no." Only infrequently do home price booms lead to busts, at least by our criteria. According to the evidence in Table 1, in just 9 of 54 unique boom episodes prior to 1998, or roughly 17 percent of all such events, did a bust subsequently occur within a five-year window. Clearly, the lion's share of home price booms have not ended in busts historically.

and further in the study:

If it is relatively rare for housing booms to result in a price bust, how do booms usually end? Our look at history suggests that stagnation in home prices is often the most likely outcome. Of the 54 boom episodes prior to 1998, 45 did not see a subsequent bust. In these cases, nominal home prices rose by an average of 2 percent per year during the five years after the boom ended.

Until you can, I see you as a real estate industry shill. I'll be waiting for your researched response.

A relative newbie calling me a shill. Too funny. I am not shilling for anything. Just calling the bull crap these clowns post in here on a daily basis for what it is. Why aren't you cynical of their motives. They are the ones posting daily articles fear-mongering about the housing bubble.

96 posted on 09/14/2006 6:37:44 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Concentrate
We housing bears are going to be more than happy to buy REO's in the coming years. The "homes" you are stretched out to the max to pay for are declining in value in 99% of the country. It's going to be such a joy to pick off the weakest-positioned desperate sellers in the long-awaited crash.

Oh, I see, you are just a predator hoping to make a fortune off the misfortune of others. I was just wasting my time trying to show you the facts, you are already firmly in the chicken little category. In fact you are even worse than that. You are hoping misfortune on to others. Truely a sick individual.

Well, it's here now. Have a nice winter and the winter after that,and the next, because SMART buyers WON'T be buying until prices are at LEAST 30% of what you are asking now.

LOL, in other words you will never be buying. Housing prices just don't fall like that outside a major economic downturn. But you just keep holding your breath waiting for that 30% decline.

97 posted on 09/14/2006 7:00:14 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Larry Lucido

"That is one durable bubble. What's it made of, cast iron?"

Watched it inflating, watching it deflating. It's been a few years, yes. What's it made of? Greed, cheap money, reckless lending, disconnected fundamentals, mania, lack of historical perspective...


98 posted on 09/14/2006 8:59:06 PM PDT by zigzag
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To: zigzag
Watched it inflating, watching it deflating.

So far the 'deflating' has been slow growth. Hardly the bubble bursting as been the cry of the fear-mongers for the last 4 years now.

99 posted on 09/15/2006 6:54:59 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right
But you just keep holding your breath waiting for that 30% decline.

That's not what he said.

WON'T be buying until prices are at LEAST 30% of what you are asking now.

He's waiting for a 70% decline.

100 posted on 09/15/2006 7:26:25 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts.)
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