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Countrywide says loan volume falls
yahoo news ^ | 9-14-06

Posted on 09/14/2006 5:54:44 AM PDT by Hydroshock

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To: RebelBanker
That is exactly right. If these talking heads on TV would shut their fat mouths our economy would be even more vibrant than it is now. Instead, because most of the US population can't think for themselves, accept the spoon fed negativity dished out by these morons, the economy is fighting to avoid becoming a self fulfilled prophecy.
21 posted on 09/14/2006 7:28:51 AM PDT by Montana4Jesus
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To: stylin19a

Because the mortgage industry doesn't measure itself month over month, Instead we look at month over same month last year. There are serious fluctuations in mortgage origination volumes month to month and July is typically a down month due to vacations. August is usually one of the biggest months of the year but August 2006 saw a substantial drop in volume indusrty wide vs last year.


22 posted on 09/14/2006 7:33:30 AM PDT by Montana4Jesus
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To: Fan of Fiat

ROFL! Great graphic!


23 posted on 09/14/2006 7:35:58 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: riverdawg

You are quite correct, but I tend to look at these things in terms of loan to value at any given moment. If your property is losing value due to a down market but you are paying down the principal on your loan at the same time, the LTV is less likely to go out of whack. The notable implication in the housing market is the availability of home equity credit.


24 posted on 09/14/2006 7:40:42 AM PDT by RebelBanker (We must not and cannot let the perfect be the enemy of the good.)
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To: riverdawg
"... the real problems come from Interest Only ARMs and Option ARMs, which allow for negative amortization."

I don't see how an interest-only ARM, by itself, leads to negative amortization.

Sorry the sentence I wrote was not entirely clear. I'm not saying IO's lead to negative amortization. Only Option ARMs. Both lead to resets where the monthly payment jumps, usually after 5 years. Payments on IOs can jump 50% or more after resetting a new interest rate and then to begin amortizing on a 25-year loan schedule.

25 posted on 09/14/2006 9:09:06 AM PDT by WashingtonSource (Freedom is not free.)
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To: Hydroshock

interesting, as July 2003 was Country Wide's (at the time) largest funding month in their history.


26 posted on 09/14/2006 11:24:57 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: Fan of Fiat

Because after the initial period of interest only, usually five years, the interest adjusts and the borrower starts to pay interest and principal. Most formulas would give borrowers a higher interest rate even if interest rates had not changed (based on a short-term rate plus a margin, often 2 percentage points or more). The principal addition to the payment is based on amortizing the loan over 25 years instead of 30, since no amortization occurred in the first 5 years. With a higher interest rate plus a principal payment when the loan resets, payments can jump 50 percent or more. If home prices are flat and falling the borrower can not refinance out of the loan to keep the payment low with a new IO or some other loan.


27 posted on 09/14/2006 6:55:35 PM PDT by WashingtonSource (Freedom is not free.)
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To: Hydroshock

I think more and more are getting mortgage loans from credit unions, instead of the typical mortgage outlets. Interest rates are lower and they don't stick you with ARM loans or fluctuating loans. We have our mortgage through an insured credit union.


28 posted on 09/14/2006 6:57:46 PM PDT by EmilyGeiger
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To: WashingtonSource
Assume:
I have a $2,000 mortgage now. I make $6000 / month and I plan on a 3% pay raise each for the next five years.

In five years, I will make $6,956 per month. This comes only $45 shy of the worst case 50% mortgage increase you predict. I can still afford the mortgage.

The odds of a home's value decreasing over 5 years is pretty minimal anyway.

29 posted on 09/15/2006 3:29:42 AM PDT by Fan of Fiat
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To: Fan of Fiat
Assume: I have a $2,000 mortgage now. I make $6000 / month and I plan on a 3% pay raise each for the next five years. In five years, I will make $6,956 per month. This comes only $45 shy of the worst case 50% mortgage increase you predict. I can still afford the mortgage. The odds of a home's value decreasing over 5 years is pretty minimal anyway.

You are right, of course. However, higher interest rates could put a strain. In some areas where labor markets are weak, the homebuyer could be unemployed. One of the reason IO loans are riskier is that the borrower is qualified for the mortgage based only on the interest payment and not on the fully amortized payment. Obviously lenders consider the risk manageable, as your example indicates. The test for IO loans will be how much higher delinquencies and defaults will be in several years after these loans have aged.

30 posted on 09/15/2006 8:00:12 AM PDT by WashingtonSource (Freedom is not free.)
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To: WashingtonSource

I concur that their is some additional risk, but I disagree with those who say any particular type of loan should never be used. I really really really disagree with those who want the government to outlaw any particular type of loan.


31 posted on 09/15/2006 8:04:11 AM PDT by Fan of Fiat
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To: Hydroshock
They just laid off about 75% of their wholesale sales force. This is the division that does loans through brokers. A few weeks ago they laid off a large chunk of their retail sales people too.

I was offered a job there in January. Thankfully, my intuition to not take the job was correct.

32 posted on 09/14/2007 9:53:36 AM PDT by RockinRight (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice. -Thomas Paine)
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To: Montana4Jesus

100% correct.

It’s not the loan programs, it’s WHO is using them and HOW that is the problem. Interest only, ARMs in general, and Option ARMs especially were once reserved for the people that were savvy investors who were risk tolerant and could afford to be that way.

When people started doing them for “the masses” to be able to buy a $500k home on $60k in income...the problems arose.


33 posted on 09/14/2007 9:55:22 AM PDT by RockinRight (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice. -Thomas Paine)
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To: RockinRight

Good, like I have said I do not wish this on anyone. But it promises to be a wild ride for the time being.


34 posted on 09/14/2007 10:00:41 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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