Posted on 09/27/2006 8:45:45 AM PDT by MNJohnnie
That wasn't directed to the posters here Texas. This group is a great bunch.
Nope not much. Other then I'm shocked and disappointed that conservative southerners will actually take up for racist slave owning Democrat Confederates against Conservatives who defend the Constitution and want a United America at ALL times from 1776 through 2006. That's really disappointing to me. I thought conservative southerners were immune to this and only racist Democrat liberals in the south still held this warped sense of reality. It really makes me a bit ashamed of the south. I'm just grateful that the clear majority of the Americans in the south agree with us on this and make no apologies for the racist Democrat slave owning Confederates. Thank God for that at least.
I found this link for a Civil War (fiction) book I read in high school:
http://www.bookrags.com/notes/afa/
Thanks for this discussion....I haven't thought about that book for 20 years! Now I need to find it and read it again.
The thing I come back to is a Professor friend of mine, the Civil War Professor, told me of a woman from Georgia in her 60s, who 20 some years ago, told him in a THICK Georgian accent (phoenetically trying to get it across because it's so neat sounding) "Professuh Wagee, afteh much thaaught, Aih doo buleeve, that iut's a GOOD thang, thaht we LOST the grate waruh" That says it all I think. He always says all he could think was, well, there is hope. :)
Later Everyone....catch you in the lounge!
I agree, and my southern roots go back to early 1700s. Slavery was evil. So glad our Republic got some sense and got rid of it.
Well, what makes me cringe is that when I see it, the thoughts of all those things is all I can see. I had to pass through Vidor Texas a few too many times and that flag just represents all the WORST things about it when I see it. It's just a personal thing. I wish I could look at it and not see the worst things it stood for at one point. :( And even though I'm a southern cracker, I can't help it. :) That's just what it brings to my mind.
Not all of them are on mine. The ones who have repented for that mistake aren't on that list of mine. There are a few FReepers I know who voted for Perot over Bush 41, voted for Bush 43 twice.
Thank goodness for "podcasts." What is Perot doing these days?
Who's trashing them? Disagreeing with them and why they did it is NOT trashing them personally. I think you're looking at this the wrong way. No one is calling Lee or Jackson names for pete's sake. Other then the Democrat racist slave owning politicians that created the whole problem in the first place. No one I've seen is trashing individuals. But with you saying that why do you think it's any more acceptable to actually call live breathing Americans like MNJohnnie a "Yankee", when you mean it in a really dirty insulting way, then it is if someone here did call Lee or Jackson a name? You should thing that it's just as unacceptable do do that then to personally attack someone here who is a liked and respected member. You're trying to run two seperate and simultansoue lines of acceptable conduct and that's not fair.
Retiring nicely. With no political aspirations in the near future. I hope.
Well okay you asked for this with your post. I have at least one member of my VERY distant family that fought for the Confederacy and I could not disagree with them and their stance on the war more. That is not disrespect. You are not viewing this properly.
That blacks in the Confederate Army were allowed to fight for the south because the Confederacy was desperate for man power, to the point that they'd actually allow blacks to be free, which if they'd of taken that tack before the war, there would have BEEN NO WAR. They didn't let those blacks fight out of the goodness of their heart, and many of them would have run to the north if they didn't think the Confederate officers would shoot them.
Yep. Understandable. A dear online friend of mine, who lives in middle Tennessee, like me, didn't like the fact that this country was divided by war, understands that the flag itself represents a part of this nation's history, whether we like that or not.
Insults? When did I insult Newt? His wife got sick (or severe car wreck injury, I can't remember which, McCain did the other) and Newt divorced her AFTER she was sick/injured for no other reason then she was a "burden" and then he remarried some trophy wife. Look it up. It's a fact. Newt lost a lot of hard core conservative support after he did that. I was really disappointed because I liked him so much for so many years. I wasn't insulting him. I was stating fact. I love the Cowboys, and always have, and back when Jimmy Johnson divorced his wife because she wasn't a good "NFL" wife and he didn't need her for his coaching career like he did in High School and NCAA coaching, and then married his current plastic bimbo, I stopped liking him totally too. It's not insulting to cite facts. Facts are facts. They're not personal. I still like Newt. But he's got that big personal short coming where he checked his vows at the door because she was politically inconvenient in his eyes. That's a horrible thing to do. Look it up. It's fact.
I brought up the issue with Newt divorcing his wife after she was very ill, then he remarried some hot little trophy wife, and he considered that to be in insult. It happened. I was citing that as fact because he said the GOP just dumped Newt and that's not true. There was that issue and some financial ones that didn't help his cause. some of it was unfair and hypocritical. But not all. I don't think bringing up facts is insulting someone.
Raster, hey, can I tell you something? Just between you and me? Can I whisper it to you? ;) Heheheh I wish I had that on tape. That was the end of Connie's career as a real journalist. :)
Exactly. Hobknobbing with Hillary, pushing socialized health care, didn't help matters much.
I am really tired of Rawle being the only guy you can cite. You don't even respond to things people say to you, you post right through them as though they weren't ever said. The Constitution does NOT afford states the RIGHT to secede! Read it! I have, cover to cover, hundreds of times. You are not correct in that opinion. If Rawle thinks that then he's interpreting the Constitution as he wants to have it read, not as it actually reads. Texas is and always has been the only state in the United States that has a legal right to secede and even then it has to be with the majority of the Texas Senate. No other State has EVER had that express right.
Wow do you have pics of that? That's awesome. The stories are priceless as well. :) That kind of stuff just gives me tingles. History is such an addictive drug. :)
Okay thanks for clarifying because I hadn't seen that anywhere and I couldn't understand where that came from. :) Yug I wish the last three hours of this thread could be unposted. :)
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