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Prospecting for Oil? Look In an Asteroid Crater
space.com website ^ | 14 December 1999 | By Michael Paine

Posted on 10/07/2006 6:33:48 PM PDT by Fred Nerks

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To: SuzyQue
I'm with you. When you think about it, how could the Russians find deep oil if it came from dinosaur remains. Also, there is just too damn much of it to be degraded biomass. Finally, applying Occam's razor to the two theories (Dinosaur remains vs. oil produced by natural geological processes) leads us to choose the simpler theory: geological processes as the one that fits the evidence the best.

Think of it: no petro dollars to the Saudis. They'll all have to get jobs.
21 posted on 10/07/2006 6:59:38 PM PDT by TommyC1
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To: Clintonfatigued

interesting theory here:

http://www.gsanctuary.com/3craters.html#fig3

22 posted on 10/07/2006 6:59:52 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (ENEMY + MEDIA = ENEMEDIA)
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To: Strategerist

Maybe we should get into the snake oi- I mean, abiogenic petroleum business. We'd have a crowd of ready-made suckers for our super cheap, super powerful oil.


23 posted on 10/07/2006 7:00:34 PM PDT by billybudd
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To: cynwoody
Yes hew taught at Cornell and died fairly recently
24 posted on 10/07/2006 7:01:54 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Fred Nerks

btt


25 posted on 10/07/2006 7:02:32 PM PDT by southland (Isaiah 17:1)
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To: TommyC1
When you think about it, how could the Russians find deep oil if it came from dinosaur remains.

Oh geez, somebody else who gets his scientific education from WingNutDaily....

26 posted on 10/07/2006 7:03:02 PM PDT by Strategerist (Those who know what's best for us must rise and save us from ourselves)
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To: Strategerist
The chemical composition of such organisms exactly matches that of petroleum in many instances.

In many or in all instances? And if that's true why can't we just synthesize crude or farm it or something?

L

27 posted on 10/07/2006 7:03:28 PM PDT by Lurker (islam is not a religion. It's the new face of Fascism in our time. We ignore it at our peril.)
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To: gotribe

Really? Why?

What were you planning on using for an oxidizer?


28 posted on 10/07/2006 7:04:07 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: kinoxi

Considering how much of the earth has been affected by impacts it would impossible to prove this theory wrong. That is without (fill in the blanks) millions of dollars in research.

___________________________

Or finding oil on the moon.


29 posted on 10/07/2006 7:05:51 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: TommyC1

btt


30 posted on 10/07/2006 7:06:34 PM PDT by southland (Isaiah 17:1)
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To: marc costanzo

Mikhailo Vasilevich Lomonosov 1711-1765

31 posted on 10/07/2006 7:09:06 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (ENEMY + MEDIA = ENEMEDIA)
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To: billybudd
We'd have a crowd of ready-made suckers for our super cheap, super powerful oil.

I'll pay for it COD.

I get the oil, then you get the cash.

L

32 posted on 10/07/2006 7:11:10 PM PDT by Lurker (islam is not a religion. It's the new face of Fascism in our time. We ignore it at our peril.)
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To: Lurker

It's being researched...

http://www.greenfuelonline.com/news/algaefuel.pdf#search=%22diatoms%20petroleum%22


33 posted on 10/07/2006 7:15:32 PM PDT by Strategerist (Those who know what's best for us must rise and save us from ourselves)
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To: Strategerist
Thanks for the link.

Synthesizing the stuff would be loads cheaper than trying to import it from asteroids.

L

34 posted on 10/07/2006 7:18:11 PM PDT by Lurker (islam is not a religion. It's the new face of Fascism in our time. We ignore it at our peril.)
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To: Lurker

Well, considering the billions of tons of diatoms that have lived and died on the earth in the last couple hundred millions of years, it's still far cheaper to simply pump the petroleum resulting from them out of the ground.


35 posted on 10/07/2006 7:19:34 PM PDT by Strategerist (Those who know what's best for us must rise and save us from ourselves)
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To: Fred Nerks
Time to bring back the Hollow Earth fantasy, LOL.
36 posted on 10/07/2006 7:21:51 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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37 posted on 10/07/2006 7:22:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (If I had a nut allergy, I'd be outta here. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Earth's Hidden Oil Reserves
by Gregory Mone
Henry Scott of Indiana University South Bend... who had read Gold’s 1998 book The Deep Hot Biosphere... simulated the conditions within the mantle using a diamond anvil apparatus. He took two diamonds with flattened tips; heated them up; stuck some iron (II) oxide, calcite and water between them; and pushed the diamonds together. The setup generated temperatures up to 1,500°C and 100,000 times the pressure found at sea level. These conditions forced the carbon in the calcite to react with the hydrogen in the water, forming methane. All of which indicates that simple hydrocarbons -- but not necessarily their heavier counterparts, oil and natural gas -- could exist deep within the earth. In his next experiment, Scott plans to move up to the heavier stuff. But even if he does find that there could be oil reserves in the mantle, don’t expect the price at the pump to drop. At the 62-to-186-mile depth that Gold suggested, even the most ambitious oilman wouldn’t get to it anytime soon.

38 posted on 10/07/2006 7:24:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (If I had a nut allergy, I'd be outta here. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Fred Nerks
"Rock oil originates as tiny bodies of animals buried in the sediments which, under the influence of increased temperature and pressure acting during an unimaginably long period of time transform into rock oil" -- M.V. Lomonosov 1757AD. "

And if you step too close to the edge you'll fall off....

39 posted on 10/07/2006 7:24:20 PM PDT by patriot_wes (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem - may they prosper who love thee...Ps 122:6)
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To: Fred Nerks

bump


40 posted on 10/07/2006 7:31:05 PM PDT by VOA
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