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Prenatal Screening not so Accurate as Once Thought – “Normal” Children Killed as “Defective”?
LifeSiteNews ^ | 11/24/06 | Hilary White

Posted on 11/25/2006 5:31:23 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: little jeremiah
When my son was in utero, it appeared as if he had a cleft lip. I prayed earnestly that God would 'fix this little boy or bring him to us so we could get it done'. When he was born (at normal nine months) he did have a small sort of scar on his upper lip, but no other discernible difference from normal!

In England and some other European nations a child can be killed in utero if a cleft lip is suspected (it's called abortion of a fetus, but we know it's just murdering off the 'undesirables').

It is plain that too many do not think of these little alive pre-born humans as yet human beings worthy of life already up and running.

41 posted on 11/27/2006 3:04:59 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Evie Munchkin; inc0mmunicad0
...wouldn't productive dialogue be better served by less inflammatory words?

Wouldn't life be better served by not using inflammatory saline solution? Abortion is beyond the pale of moral or humane decency, therefore, it is also necessarily beyond the pale of staid debate or description. It is an unspeakable abomination

43 posted on 11/27/2006 3:35:04 PM PST by Theophilus (A person is a person no matter how small)
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To: Marie

Your children are very blessed to have you as a mother.

BTW, I love your tagline. It shows you realize that "smart,educated" is NOT redundant.


44 posted on 11/27/2006 3:39:39 PM PST by murdoog
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To: Scotswife
Our granddaughter was born early at 2..lbs..9oz....!!

Tiny....parts, like ears, still wobbly & not structured...

dependent on feeding tube, bells & whistles...etc.

In 2 weeks she will be 2 years old...

..perfect in every way....bright, beautiful, well formed, all caught up in size/weight... a doll!

Thank the Lord for parents willing to take the time to nurture her along...and for the blessed nurses and doctors in NICU.

There are 2-1/2 lb babies aborted every day....

45 posted on 11/27/2006 3:52:04 PM PST by Guenevere
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To: Yaelle

I am 23 weeks pregnant as of today. I had a subchorionic bleed that healed itself and my baby is doing perfectly well now. I bled for almost 5 weeks and was told that I ought to abort because the chances of me carrying to term were slim to none. Am looking forward to greeting baby number 7 in the spring. My prayers go out to your friend in the hopes that not only will she make it till the baby's lungs are developed but that she will heal and have a normal pregnancy from here on out.


46 posted on 11/27/2006 3:53:46 PM PST by sfimom (Sign at animal shelter, Children left unattended will be given a puppy or a kitten.)
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To: inc0mmunicad0

"Just curious--this is something I've often wondered--what is it that you feel you gain by using hyperbolic "scare" language?"

Hyperbole is in the eye of the beholder. One person's hyperbole is another's accuracy. For example, I prefer the less-common but more accurate term "infanticide" to the more politically correct term "abortion". Why? Because it's a more accurate description of the act that takes place.

I don't like lying, so I leave it to others to bend their rhetoric into more palatable (and dishonest) terminology.


47 posted on 11/27/2006 3:57:01 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: wagglebee

Yup!

Try this real life example on for size:

Couple told their baby would have downs syndrome.
Husband wanted abortion.
Wife said "No Way!".
Baby born perfectly normal.

How's Dad doing, knowing every time he looks at his beautiful, perfect daughter, that he wanted to kill her?...


48 posted on 11/27/2006 4:00:17 PM PST by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: I still care
One of my students who was interviewed for her work with handicapped children had this to say.

"One of the greatest things you can do in life is help others! I truly believe that the handicapped and mentally challenged people around us are all angels sent from heaven to help show us the way here on Earth."

49 posted on 11/27/2006 4:03:18 PM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear... on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: sfimom

Thank you very much for your prayers for her! G-d bless your little one, so glad your bleed is gone. She has 5 lovely kids at home now and this will be her #6, G-d willing.


50 posted on 11/27/2006 4:40:59 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: WKB; little jeremiah

"Every soul is precious and worthy; we're all handicapped in one way or another."

"Truer words were never posted bump."


Absolutely!

Thank you for the ping and post!


51 posted on 11/27/2006 5:00:20 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: mware; Theophilus; cpforlife.org; betty boop; Alamo-Girl
One need only read Jesus' sermon on the mount to realize that what life comes after this earthly sojourn is not in the least dependent upon the size of the muscles or beauty of the body during this life. Sadly, too many treat this life as if it is all there is, with nothing to follow, so they spend their prescious life here chasing the transcient qualities and miss entirely the 'scare riddled' deeper nature.

When some pro-choicer like incommunicato can show me/prove to me when the spirit and soul are present in the pre-born, I'll at least consider their selfish reasoning. Until then I believe both are present at conception, as the will to live manifests with growth and development of the organs and tissues for life in the womb and life in the air world to follow.[Will is an aspect of soul, as in will, emotion, and mind, the behavior mechanisms of the self. Even my two cats have those aspects.]

God noted for us that He knits us together in the womb, that's each individually He knits together, and spirit is part of the human nature so it is there when soul is there. Spirit is also still around when the body ceases to function, but most liberals don't actually believe that else they wouldn't promote the killing of pre-born alive humans or get their hackles up when someone calls infanticide for what it is.

52 posted on 11/28/2006 11:29:44 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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Pro-Life PING

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53 posted on 11/28/2006 2:32:40 PM PST by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: wagglebee
"Yet genetic screening by eugenicists grows more common."

It only seems to bother the Left when they are told that the mom is aborting a child because he has the "gay gene."

...not that there really is such a gene, but then again, these genetic tests aren't accurate enough to make very informed decisions, anyway.

54 posted on 11/28/2006 2:39:13 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: MHGinTN
Excellent post Marvin. As always.

"Spirit is also still around when the body ceases to function, but most liberals don't actually believe that else they wouldn't promote the killing of pre-born alive humans or get their hackles up when someone calls infanticide for what it is."

I slightly disagree here. I think most liberals DO believe life begins at conception along with the spirit but they think abortion is still an acceptable option for unwanted babies. Some rationalize it into a "good" thing.

Jon Carry said as much in his miserable run at the WH.

At least two libs told me this to my face, and I know of many folk who "apparently were good Christians" until they "needed" to kill their unborn children, even daughters of Baptist Ministers etc.
55 posted on 11/28/2006 2:50:32 PM PST by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: cpforlife.org

So what you're saying, Brother, is: 'they know what they're doing spits in God's face and they do it anyway, assuming godhood unto themselves'. Perhaps that is part of why the world is going to Hell in a hand basket so rapidly now ... God will be long suffering for just so long, and when we are beyond the turnabout point where His patience with us harms us to continue, He lets loose the demons. Islam is rising, Brother, Islam is rising.


56 posted on 11/28/2006 7:22:32 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
So what you're saying, Brother, is: 'they know what they're doing spits in God's face and they do it anyway, assuming godhood unto themselves'.

Many do. Yes, absolutely. Most know it's absolutely wrong and do it anyway.

One woman that my friend knows: late twenties - early thirties, born and raised and schooled Catholic. She went to Catholic Mass DAILY for years. One day while he was praying in front of a mill he saw her parking in the "patient" lot and walking into the mill. He called out to her to warn her that she would be arrested if she went inside to protest. He assumed she was there to protest. She was there to murder her baby. He was stunned, to say the least.

It's also very common for "Christian" women bringing their teens to mills to slaughter their own grandchildren.

A report I read says Catholics and Protestants abort almost as much as the national average.

Again, a very large percentage absolutely know it is wrong and do it anyway.
57 posted on 11/28/2006 9:46:06 PM PST by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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ProLife Ping!

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58 posted on 11/28/2006 10:06:07 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We will need to crush the Iraq Study Group like we crushed Harriet Miers. Be ready.)
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To: MHGinTN

Thanks for the ping!


59 posted on 11/28/2006 10:12:53 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: inc0mmunicad0
If that meant terminating the pregnancy, so be it, and the earlier the better--the less chance of pain and suffering, the better.

Terminating the pregnancy, I see, so it is better for the fetus to feel pain and suffer in the womb as it's being burned and ripped apart in the abortion procedure, than it is to let the fetus exit the birth canal and have natural pain that you didn't inflict on it? I think you mean the less chance you will have to witness the baby's pain and suffering, the better.

60 posted on 11/28/2006 10:45:08 PM PST by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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