Posted on 12/22/2006 4:58:51 AM PST by radar101
PARDON??? B.S.!!
They should get MEDALS!!!
ok, i have been following this story for a while....based upon what I have read, the jury should not have convicted them....what am I not reading or seeing here?
The only other way out of this is an appeal--which can take up to FIVE years
Not going to happen. We are talking about the same President who allows murder charges against Marines doing their jobs.
no, I mean what was the evidence that convicted them...based upon what I have read, there was nothing to convict there...what part of the evidence has not been posted or mentioned? Ya don't convict someone of a crime unless there is evidence of that crime. I would like to know what the jury heard that made them return a guilty verdict.
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I agree . Can you imagine taking a law suit to court when you are a smuggler and get shot for smuggling.?
Ridiculous.
Set these men free Mr President.
The two agents pursued Osbaldo Aldrete-Davila, whose van was later found to contain nearly 800 pounds of marijuana. After Aldrete-Davila left his van and struggled with Compean, both agents shot at him as he fled but thought they had missed him, and he crossed the river back into Mexico. One of Ramos' bullets had hit Aldrete-Davila in the buttocks, it turned out.
A jury convicted Ramos and Compean in March of serious bodily injury, assault with a deadly weapon, discharge of a firearm in relation to a crime of violence, obstruction of justice, and a civil rights violation. They are scheduled to be sentenced Aug. 22.
Aldrete-Davila, who was given immunity by the U.S. government to testify against the agents, is now suing the Border Patrol for $5 million for alleged civil rights violations.
So the drug smuggler somehow turned out to be the golden boy in this whole thing, with immunity from smuggling charges and a chance at $5 million in U.S. taxpayer money. The two Border Patrol agents are looking at hard time.
We don't presume to question jury convictions. But there are a lot of things not to like about this whole case and the way it developed.
It makes us uncomfortable that a Department of Homeland Security investigator tracked down Aldrete-Davila in Mexico and offered him immunity to testify against the two agents. We understand the need for the department to police the actions of its own employees, but somehow we liked to think that Homeland Security personnel were actually securing the homeland – not out making deals with foreign smugglers.
I'll be surprised if it happens. The prosecutor of this case is a close personal friend of Bush . His actions in this case indicates that he is protecting drug dealers and smugglers rather than acting in the interest of this country. This seems to be the direction the whole Bush administration is going. Some of the drug cartel money must be getting through to people in high places.
THANK YOU for those pictures!!!
Pictures from the Rally:
http://www.campominutemen.com/photos.aspx
Page 2. "Compean Press"
This is one time Congress should have an investigation into the Justice Department (and AG Alberto Gonzales) to find out why those charges were instigated.
This should be done BEFORE any pardon is requested.
Why did the Justice Department go after these 2 Border Agents?
ramos and compean ping
Radar, you left out a very important part of this whole story. The smuggler was granted immunity by the US attorney in order for him to testify against the agents. Before the trial he was arrested a second time smuggling a large amount of drugs into the country. He was granted immunity a second time by the same US attorney. Smells of collusion with the drug dealers, doesn't it?
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/zieve/060713
It is unfortunate that there are U.S. Border Patrol Officers who, through a quirk of law, are U.S. citizens but whose loyalties, culture and mores are of and to a foreign nation. I am referring specifically to Mexico. We currently have Border Patrol Officers who were raised, educated and indoctrinated in Mexico. They regard themselves as Mexican first and their loyalties are to Mexico. They regard their mission as Border Patrol Officers as primarily to assure the safety of their fellow countrymen while they illegally enter the United States. This is why we have a history of Border Patrol Officers working for the Mexican human and drug smuggling cartels. Being raised in Mexico and having friends and family there, they have a support network to use when they get crosswise with U.S. law. Of course, when they get caught, they flee to Mexico where they have family and friends.
US Border Patrol Supervisor David Stoddard. Mr. Stoddard spent 27 years in the Border Patrol
Many Americans are coming to that same conclusion. There's something wrong with the picture when an invading drug smuggler goes free and then sues America while two men doing their jobs get sentenced to prison. They should be hailed as heroes instead.
Here's what Dobbs said the white house response was.
WIAN: During today's rally, Congressman Rohrabacher's office received a lengthy response from the White House.
Among its claims, the White House says, while the sentence may -- the sentences of the two agents may seem harsh, the agents, in the White House's view, used excessive force. And the White House says they received a fair trial -- Kitty.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0612/21/ldt.01.html
According to some of the jurors, they did not feel the trial was fair.
Sentencing looms for agents, jurors say they were misled
Agents’ lawyer seeks new trial in shooting case
By Louie Gilot / El Paso Times
Three members of the jury that convicted two former El Paso Border Patrol agents of shooting a drug smuggler in the buttocks last year said they were misled into finding them guilty, according to a motion filed late Tuesday, two days before the agents are to be sentenced.
http://hecubus.wordpress.com/2006/10/18/ignacio-ramos-and-jose-compean-illegal-immigration-heroes/
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