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Lawyer: DAs Have Protection From Lawsuits
NBC Durham ^ | 1/19/07 | Carolyn Costello

Posted on 01/19/2007 8:38:22 PM PST by freespirited

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To: freespirited
Forget Nifong. No deep pockets there.

Will end as follows

1. Cases will be dismissed with "semi-applolgies."
2. State will settle with students for two to five million each, plus lawyer's fees.
3. Dancer/Hooker will get "help" so she can "get on with her life" Help means $, probably $10,000.
41 posted on 01/20/2007 12:11:37 AM PST by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: freespirited

PS,

Nifong, in his book, will blame the Durham cops.


42 posted on 01/20/2007 12:13:46 AM PST by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: freespirited
I am not buying that "absolute immunity" bushwah.

In general immunity is to protect public servants from frivolous lawsuits while doing their job.

When there has been egregious conduct, including lawbreaking, I do not believe that an immunity clause will protect the malefactor.

43 posted on 01/20/2007 4:48:57 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: pepsionice

That's my take on it, too. He's made too many waves, embarrassed and inconvenienced too many people. If he had pulled it off, he would have been OK, but he screwed up. They'll ease him out, and as you say, he will be pretty much unemployable. That's not as satisfying as suing him and throwing him in jail, but his life is not going to be very pleasant for a man with his evident ambitions.


44 posted on 01/20/2007 8:30:04 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: AndyTheBear

Prosecutors are elected, but they are also reliant on their fellow prosecutors, staff, government, and party leaders.

If the party leaders decide that Nifong is radioactive, they will find ways to dispose of him before the next election. If nothing else, they can lean on the lawyers to disbar him, which I believe would force him to resign.

Lawyers and politicians essentially belong to clubs. They protect each other and scratch each others' backs, but they can also expel anyone who breaks the club's rules and embarrasses them.


45 posted on 01/20/2007 8:45:32 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Gay State Conservative
I think this is ripe for a civil suit. Normally corporate officers enjoy immunity except when it can be shown that their actions we so egregious as to have this protection stripped.

I think the same logic applies to this DA! I imagine the DA is headed for a McJob and the taxpayers are getting ready to pay.
46 posted on 01/20/2007 8:55:56 AM PST by lowbuck (The Blue Card (US Passport). . . Don't leave home without it!)
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To: spunkets
Prosecutors normally have investigative services at their disposal and they are in charge of directing them in a general way, like telling them to find evidence. Maybe what they're referring to is that he took over some "chief investigators" role and got involved in details.

I believe that is exactly what happened, i.e. Nifong took over as if he was chief of police. Among other things he directed the police to violate their lineup procedures so as to produce an outcome that essentially guaranteed that the accuser would pick three lacrosse players.

47 posted on 01/20/2007 8:56:18 AM PST by freespirited (Honk for disbarment of Mike Nifong.)
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To: spunkets
"If the law requires him to disclose exculpatory evidence, and he instead conspires with the DNA lab to withhold exculpatory evidence, he is not only commiting a crime, he is also acting outside of his official duties."

That would clearly be a fed crime. Why is there no mention of that. The fed crime is not within the scope of his official duties. Only something he overlooked, forgot, ect... Like what happens in IL repeatedly. That kind of thing is within the scope of their duty. Why didn't the judge cite him for contempt?

That has been where I believe Nifong's legal jeopardy is greatest. There was clearly a conspiracy to deny these men their due process. A federal offense. Now we will have to see if the Justice Department has the balls to prosecute or if they will continue to be primarily a political prosecutorial tool (i.e. The 'PlameGate' case and the NeTeller execs arrest)

48 posted on 01/20/2007 9:18:45 AM PST by Ghengis (Of course freedom is free. If it wasn't, it would be called expensivedom. ~Cindy Sheehan 11/11/06)
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To: STE=Q

You said -- "Prove it or not... Nifong's actions in this case have so tainted him that -- for all practical purposes -- his career may be over anyway."

In addition to that, a committee or organization needs to be formed to hound him for the rest of his life (if he can't be sued for this egregious misconduct) -- so that he can't get a job above washing dishes in a restaurant....

Regards,
Star Traveler


49 posted on 01/20/2007 9:22:56 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: freespirited
"I believe that is exactly what happened, i.e. Nifong took over as if he was chief of police. Among other things he directed the police to violate their lineup procedures so as to produce an outcome that essentially guaranteed that the accuser would pick three lacrosse players.

Nifong has no authority to take over as chief of an investigative services except his own. That would be of the type "Investigators of the office of the DA". Lineup procedures are established by case law, have a rational basis and were instituted to elimate bias. If he violated the procedures in a way that introduces bias, then he was unethical. It would also show that the police agency was unethical by allowing it and furthering a miscarriage of justice. IOWs they were fabricating evidence, rather than obtaining it.

50 posted on 01/20/2007 9:34:56 AM PST by spunkets
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To: Ghengis

Who exposed the fact that the exculpatory DNA evidence was withheld?


51 posted on 01/20/2007 9:37:23 AM PST by spunkets
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To: spunkets

The details of the line-up are laid out in a motion to suppress by the defense. It will mean a lot more to you than me. Here it is--the lineup details start on page 15.

http://www.newsobserver.com/content/news/story_graphics/20061214_motion.pdf

(This is a big file--46 pages).


52 posted on 01/20/2007 10:03:03 AM PST by freespirited (Honk for disbarment of Mike Nifong.)
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To: spunkets
Who exposed the fact that the exculpatory DNA evidence was withheld?

The defense forced the director of the DNA lab to admit it at a hearing last month. It's all explained in this blog post by K.C. Johnson:

http://durhamwonderland.blogspot.com/2006/12/meehan-transcript.html

53 posted on 01/20/2007 10:13:06 AM PST by freespirited (Honk for disbarment of Mike Nifong.)
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To: spunkets
Who exposed the fact that the exculpatory DNA evidence was withheld?

From the CBS News web site:
At a hearing last month, Meehan testified that he and Nifong agreed to limit the report to "just the stuff that matched" the lacrosse players or three of the accuser's friends. After Meehan found there was DNA evidence from other unidentified men, he says he spelled out that information to D.A. Nifong in person and on the phone – before he completed his report.

He does some moonwalking after this statement, but the fact that these guys agreed to exlude the exculpatory DNA evidence in violation of the law seems very clear.

54 posted on 01/20/2007 12:33:17 PM PST by Ghengis (Of course freedom is free. If it wasn't, it would be called expensivedom. ~Cindy Sheehan 11/11/06)
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To: Ghengis
"Meehan testified that he and Nifong agreed to limit the report to "just the stuff that matched" the lacrosse players or three of the accuser's friends. After Meehan found there was DNA evidence from other unidentified men, he says he spelled out that information to D.A. Nifong in person and on the phone – before he completed his report."

This is contradictory. ie. 2st he has an agreement, then he doesn't? I assume Meehan is the lab guy. The lab guy can not agree to limit anything. He must report all that he finds. It was unethical for them to discuss what would be presented, other than for both to make sure everything was. It appears Nifong attempted to influence Meehan, but Meehan didn't go along, so there's no conspiracy.

55 posted on 01/20/2007 12:49:03 PM PST by spunkets
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To: Ghengis

"2st" should be 1st.


56 posted on 01/20/2007 12:50:27 PM PST by spunkets
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To: spunkets
It appears Nifong attempted to influence Meehan, but Meehan didn't go along, so there's no conspiracy.

Don't pontificate unless you have been following the case.

A false report was generated and presented to the court and the defense. There absolutely was a conspiracy, and its fruit was the false report.

Then the lab director realized he could not keep this covered up forever, and testified to the conspiracy under oath.

57 posted on 01/20/2007 5:10:03 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: CurlyDave
Pontificate?

"A false report was generated and presented to the court and the defense. "

I see, so the he refers to Meehan... So, Meehan's first report to the judge and defese, did not contain the complete findings. However Nifong did have knowledge of additional results that were withheld. That's evidence that a conspiracy was committed to deprive the defendants of due process under the color of law, 18USC242. The feds should go after Nifong, but might not. The defendants can sue if they don't.

" Then the lab director realized he could not keep this covered up forever, and testified to the conspiracy under oath."

If the lab director decided that he wanted out on his own and came forward, he is out of the conspiracy and it's unlikely the defendants can sue him successfully. He'd just be part of their due process then.

58 posted on 01/20/2007 5:52:29 PM PST by spunkets
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To: spunkets
If the lab director decided that he wanted out on his own and came forward, he is out of the conspiracy and it's unlikely the defendants can sue him successfully.

If I'm not mistaken, he was testifying under oath when the defense lawyers questioned him about the DNA report. He appears to have decided that committing perjury wasn't worth the risk.

59 posted on 01/20/2007 6:11:02 PM PST by Bob
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To: Cicero

I think Nifong is washed up and will be eased out of office...
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They said the same thing about Nagin.


60 posted on 01/20/2007 6:19:34 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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