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Guns do not save or secure lives (ETSU student for gun control)
East Tennessean ^ | 3/26/2007 | Darren Seiber

Posted on 03/27/2007 5:59:29 PM PDT by Libertarianchick

Edited on 03/27/2007 6:32:00 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Libertarianchick

Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime

Major crime fell dramatically in states which have legalized the carrying of concealed handguns, according to a comprehensive new study at the University of Chicago.

For the first time, researchers analyzed crime statistics for all 3,054 counties in the United Sates between 1977 and 1992, according to one of the authors of the unpublished study, Professor John Lott. After adjusting for a general fall in crime rates, the study found that:

* In the 31 states that now have "concealed right to carry" laws, murders were down, on average, by 8.5 percent.

* Rapes were down 5 percent and serious assaults by 7 percent.

* In cities with populations of more than 250,000, murder rates dropped after the passage of such laws by an average of 13.5 percent.

According to the study, the fall in crime did not result from an increased use of guns, but from potential criminals avoiding confrontations. In fact, criminals apparently shifted to lower-risk offenses, since property crimes increased in those states. Other findings included:

* The most dramatic falls in murder rates were in areas where the number of women carrying firearms was high.

* The study found that for every woman who carries a concealed hand, the murder rate fell by three to four times more than it would have if one more man had carried a concealed gun.

* If states with concealed handgun bans had allowed them in 1992, about 1,570 murders, 4,177 rapes and more than 60,000 aggravated assaults would have been avoided.

In addition, the researchers found no evidence of an increase in accidental killings or suicides in states with concealed carry laws.

Sources: Ian Katz, "'Gun Law' Cuts Crime Rate, US Study Finds," Guardian, August 3, 1996, and Dennis Cauchon, "Study: Weapons Laws Deter Crime: Fewer Rapes, Murders Found Where Concealed Guns Legal," USA Today, August 2, 1996.


21 posted on 03/27/2007 6:12:34 PM PDT by Just_Sue (I'm from Texas and Carry)
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To: William Terrell

I'm not for gun control, the writer of this in my student paper is.


22 posted on 03/27/2007 6:12:44 PM PDT by Libertarianchick
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To: Feline_AIDS

I'm posting this so people can see the idiocy present at my school. I AM NOT for gun control.


23 posted on 03/27/2007 6:13:26 PM PDT by Libertarianchick
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To: bill1952
He will get older...

Don't bet on it.

Even if he does, he won't neccessarily get any smarter. Some people are doomed to liberalism their entire lives.

24 posted on 03/27/2007 6:14:06 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: bluecollarman
"All statistical information used in this article can be found at http://www.iansa.org.:"

That's pretty much all I needed to know about this garbage.

That pretty much blue-collars its. The formatting's fine for this after all - it's like a visual of a Rosie O'Donald audio rant.

25 posted on 03/27/2007 6:14:28 PM PDT by kcar
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To: Libertarianchick

Lotta made up statistics there.


26 posted on 03/27/2007 6:15:09 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Heus, hic nos omnes in agmine sunt! Deo volente rivoque non adsurgente)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Darren needs to be your ping list. He needs some educating.


27 posted on 03/27/2007 6:15:09 PM PDT by CindyDawg (Thank you, Lord.)
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To: Libertarianchick
Here at FR we have a long and storied tradition of shooting the messenger.

Ya commie. ;-)

28 posted on 03/27/2007 6:15:23 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Libertarianchick
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the toughest hombre in Eastern Tennessee, who clearly doesn't need a weapon to defend himself:

Try not to take to many shortcuts in mountain country, pal. Some people might get the idea that a lip ring is advertising. Or maybe that's the point.

29 posted on 03/27/2007 6:15:56 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: kcar

It hurts my eyes. I can't even read it.


30 posted on 03/27/2007 6:16:09 PM PDT by Holicheese (I love shrimp and grits.)
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To: Libertarianchick
Now, now, a good American can never pass up a bargain. Maybe that explains why 1,000 people die every day due to guns.

Sounds like a worldwide total. But by inference they try to make it sound like the USA. Never can be honest, can they?

31 posted on 03/27/2007 6:16:37 PM PDT by rock58seg (Conservative American skeptics: The worlds last bastion of sanity.)
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To: NY Attitude
Besides being wrong, what is this student learning in school besides how to be a whiny liberal? It certainly isn't journalistic techniques and formatting.

Fuzzy logic, skewed, misleading and outright false statistics, using attacks instead of reasoning. Sounds like CBS to me.

32 posted on 03/27/2007 6:17:26 PM PDT by magslinger (Submission? That's a bit of a problem!)
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To: Billthedrill

While reading it I was sure the writer was a woman.

The author might get wise after he gets mugged.


33 posted on 03/27/2007 6:17:51 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Libertarianchick

Don't let'um get yeah down. I think I have posted a couple similar articles and comments where I was quoting but people thought it was my opinion. These types of articles need "Barf alerts"


34 posted on 03/27/2007 6:20:02 PM PDT by tranzorZ
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To: Billthedrill
He will get older.

But not necessarily get wiser or shed his liberal mental illness, but then, they are the same thing.

35 posted on 03/27/2007 6:20:29 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Libertarianchick
Maybe that explains why 1,000 people die every day due to guns.

What a load of crap. 365,000 people in this country are dying from guns? B$

36 posted on 03/27/2007 6:20:51 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Democrats in Republican Clothing ... DIRC ... They are the knives in the back of the GOP.)
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To: Libertarianchick
Asshattery at it's finest.
37 posted on 03/27/2007 6:21:10 PM PDT by WVNight (We havn't played Cowboys and Muslims yet....)
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To: Dr.Deth

Sheesh. I think he wrote this steaming pile in a sad attempt to get laid.


38 posted on 03/27/2007 6:21:24 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Larry Lucido
Lets just look at one of the lies in this ignorant combination of words.
The author makes the statement that a thousand people die every day because of guns. He starts out talking about Texas but that statement is not true about Texas or any other state in our country. In fact that statement is not true of any single day in our country since the war of 1812. I can find no data that that statement is true of this entire planet day in and day out.
In other words even if we applied this statement to the entire earth including all the wars worldwide, most days this statement would still not be true.
The author lied. He made up his own facts and expects us to believe him.
A liar is a liar is a liar. He is right behind Michael Moore in that line.
39 posted on 03/27/2007 6:21:34 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: Libertarianchick
We are wrong because guns are wrong. They are deadly, unethical creations that do not save or secure any number of lives that could build a reliable statistic. Instead, there are mountains of statistics telling us otherwise. Take, for instance, this statistic: for women, having a gun in the house increases the chances of being murdered by 172 percent. If that's not good enough, chew on this for a while: one study showed that people who attempt to use a gun in self-defense are four times as likely to die. Having a gun in the home does not make you safer.

The author is a blithering idiot. It's surprising that our youngsters brains are being filled with this type of mush, but considering the bulk of our teachers are liberals, I guess it's really to be expected. Anyone who believes the garbage this retard posted needs to have their head examined ASAP.
40 posted on 03/27/2007 6:21:43 PM PDT by Pox (Just say NO to RINO Rudy!)
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