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Trash Talk Radio (Imus)
NY Times ^ | April 10, 2007 | GWEN IFILL

Posted on 04/10/2007 3:25:18 AM PDT by Thebaddog

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To: Thebaddog

I see it more from a perspective of a female .... it’s locker room, gutter talk and it cheapens our culture. You can list all sorts of other people who act this way and I agree that they should not. Is it hypocritical to only go after the white guys, maybe but I still think he should be booted off the air.


61 posted on 04/10/2007 5:40:19 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: Malsua

Shhhh..................Don’t confuse people with the truth.


62 posted on 04/10/2007 5:40:46 AM PDT by Sue Perkick (...what I was born to do, don't have to think it through.....)
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To: All

Just thought of something else. Look at how many of the liberal dem politicians won’t appear on a Fox debate. Wonder how many of them will wind up appearing on the Imus show during the campaign cycle? Hmmmmmmmm. Something to watch.


63 posted on 04/10/2007 5:48:59 AM PDT by kedd
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To: Sue Perkick

FYI..I had MSNBC on in the background for an hour or so this morning..to see what would happen. I noticed they had an awful lot of bumper music being played...to fill dead airtime..which would only happen if a lot of sponsors pulled their ads..so, we shall see..


64 posted on 04/10/2007 5:49:06 AM PDT by ken5050 (The 2008 winning ticket: Rudy/Newtie, with Hunter for SecDef, Pete King at DHS, Bill Simon at Treas)
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To: pookie18
I am deeply offended by your depiction of the Right Honorable Reverend Sharpton.

(he is way fatter than that)
65 posted on 04/10/2007 5:51:22 AM PDT by four more in O 4 (God Bless America. Let Freedom Reign.)
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To: Thebaddog

66 posted on 04/10/2007 5:52:28 AM PDT by petercooper ("Daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime." - Nicole Gelinas - 02-10-04)
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To: Mercat; sirchtruth; commonguymd
all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others George Orwell.

The 'authoritarian personality' is not to be interpreted primarily as a handbook for the conduct of warfare against prejudice as such, but as a handbook for psychological warfare against the American male for the purpose of rendering him unwilling to defend traditional and formerly held beliefs and values. In other words, the purpose would be to emasculate him. (emphasis supplied).

Dr. Atkinson

Imus is an equal opportunity traducer. He routinely features a character actor/comedian who satirizes Reverend Falwell. As a Protestant Christian I am offended by this. His producer routinely presents a satire making Cardinal Egan look ridiculous. Catholic Christians equally have a right to be offended. But in neither instance is NBC or CBS offended. They husband their indignation only to react to vilification of female African-American basketball players. .

Who was the reactor in chief? That charlatan, the Reverend Al Sharpton! I find Reverend Al's very existence offensive and I certainly find his mendacious behavior in the Tawana Brawley caper to be a vilification of white people. The powers that control the airwaves, private profit making companies, have not reacted in indignation against the buffoonery and malicious anti-white vilifications of Reverend Al, rather they have actually given him his own radio program.

Do I care? Personally, no. After all, I hold Reverend Al in such contempt that it is impossible for him to insult me, impossible for him to get under my skin. Likewise, the contrived slanders against Reverend Falwell or other Christians committed routinely on Don Imus' program fail to arouse me, perhaps because I'm of an age and upbringing which considers these sorts of things to be part of the chaff of our modern world.

But on a political and policy level, I care very deeply because the Reverend Al Sharpton, and his fellow travelers at CBS and NBC, are setting a standard which ultimately will shift political power away from me and to the likes of the Reverend Al Sharpton. And that is a prospect that arouses me fully.

Political correctness, multiculturalism, laws against hate crimes, and other legal, quasi legal, and extralegal restrictions on freedom of thought and freedom of expression are not the natural and haphazard expressions of a leftist political philosophy, rather they are a calculated attempt to move the fulcrum of political power to the left by changing the rules under which we live. As a white, male, Christian, I don't have the same standing to complain as a black buffoon and notorious liar. As a white, male animal, I have been defined into an animal who has fewer rights than other animals who are "more equal."

Dr. Atkinson has written a series of articles and given a series of lectures, some of them at the Naval Academy, in which he contends that all this political correctness is not an accident of history but, dare I say it, the product of a conscious conspiracy to exploit the doctrines of cultural Marxism in order to convert our society to the socialist model:

Most Americans do not yet realize that they are being led by social revolutionaries who think in terms of the destruction of the existing social order in order to create a new social order in the world. These revolutionaries are the New Age elite Boomers, the New Totalitarians [26]. They now control every public institution in the United States of America. Their 'quiet' revolution, beginning with the counter-culture revolution of their youth, is nearly complete. It was based on the intellectual foundation of the 'cultural Marxists' of the Frankfurt School. Its completion depends on keeping the American male in his psychic 'iron cage.'

...history identifies a small group of German intellectuals who devised concepts, processes, and action plans which conform very closely to what Americans presently observe every day in their culture. Observations, such as those made at the beginning of this piece, can be directly traced to the work of this core group of intellectuals. They were members of the Frankfurt School, formed in Germany in 1923. They were the forebears of what some proclaim as 'cultural Marxism,' a radical social movement that has transformed American culture.

'Cultural Marxism' and 'critical theory' are concepts developed by a group of German intellectuals, who, in 1923 in Germany, founded the Institute of Social Research at Frankfurt University. The Institute, modeled after the Marx-Engels Institute in Moscow, became known as the Frankfurt School.7 In 1933, when the Nazis came to power in Germany, the members of the Frankfurt School fled to the United States. While here, they migrated to major U.S. universities (Columbia, Princeton, and California at Berkeley). These intellectual Marxists included Herbert Marcuse, who coined the phrase, 'make love, not war,' during the anti-Vietnam War demonstrations.

By promoting the dialectic of 'negative' criticism, that is, pointing out the rational contradictions in a society's belief system, the Frankfurt School 'revolutionaries' dreamed of a utopia where their rules governed.

If you're interested, you can find a full explanation of Dr. Atkinson thesis here:

http://www.newtotalitarians.com/PsychicIronCagePartII.html

Meanwhile, we have a better understanding of why Don Imus, who has made a career of being naughty, must now go to the woodshed for doing what he has been doing for decades.


67 posted on 04/10/2007 5:52:55 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("I like to legislate. I feel I've done a lot of good." Sen. Robert Byrd)
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To: Thebaddog; leadpenny
You cannot buy this kind of publicity for ANY amount of money. This thing is way beyond anything to be determined according to the merits.

It's all about the ratings baybee!! and the I-Man's will go no direction but up.

68 posted on 04/10/2007 6:00:09 AM PDT by don-o (Fight, fight. fight to drive the GOP to the right!!!!)
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To: don-o
I don't know if his ratings will go up or not. He pulled a Trent Lott. He made his situation worse by apologizing and groveling, and to the likes of Al Sharpton. He looked wimpy. If he had any guts he would have said something like, "I'm sorry I called those girls ho's. I really don't if they are ho's or not, and it was wrong of me to question their virtue. Then leave it at that".
69 posted on 04/10/2007 6:21:56 AM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: Thebaddog

Didn’t he once call Howard Kurtz a “penis nose” and “boner-nose Jew”? Anybody else remember that?

IMO he’s a jerk.


70 posted on 04/10/2007 6:39:16 AM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Dems will impeach Bush)
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To: Betty Jane
All I can think is that maybe Sharpton will be taken down on the double standard between rappers and crackers in the speech that they are allowed to use. I sincerely hope that Al goes out and crusades against violent and degrading language in rap music.
71 posted on 04/10/2007 7:04:53 AM PDT by Thebaddog (Labrador Retrievers forever)
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To: Laverne

It’s only unforgivably evil if a white man says it. It’s about power. Black people enjoy having some power over the speech of white people.

When they can make us shut up and not say certain words under threat of firing and lawsuits, or joke about other races while black comedians can insult whites all day - it makes them feel powerful.


72 posted on 04/10/2007 7:40:04 AM PDT by Pete98 (After his defeat by the Son of God, Satan changed his name to Allah and started over.)
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To: sure_fine

Yup, white liberals love to insult black people like Clarence Thomas and Michael Steele. A black man who’s not liberal is an instant “Uncle Tom” to them.


73 posted on 04/10/2007 7:43:22 AM PDT by Pete98 (After his defeat by the Son of God, Satan changed his name to Allah and started over.)
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To: Finalapproach29er

I don’t know about Kurtz, but he’s regularly referred to Stern using those expressions. But those two never attempted to hide their contempt for each other.


74 posted on 04/10/2007 8:42:12 AM PDT by Sue Perkick (...what I was born to do, don't have to think it through.....)
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To: Dixie Yooper; All
Imus is not the first shock-jock to get a suspension for making a racial slur on the radio, and two weeks is a slap on the wrists. Back in the 1990's, Grease Man in Washington, DC was suspended for at least 6 weeks for making a racial slur of his own in regards to MLK day. A few years latter he was fired for making another racial slur. The big difference between Imus and Grease Man was Grease Man was really funny without making racial slurs.

Kudos for mentioning not only a SUPERIOR air talent (Greaseman aka Doug Tracht). That stuff happens so quick and so suddenly that it is an occupational hazard of broadcasting.

The REAL villains in such incidents?

The sloppy-ass producers and technicians who almost ALWAYS have (or should have) their finger on the 'dump' button so they can put empty air out there *just in case* something gets said that is obscene, over the line, etc., and when you hear about an air personality, be it Imus, Stern, Grease, etc., catching Hell for something they said, it isn't just them, it's the producers who let the objectionable word or words make it to the airwaves.

I am extremely glad to see Grease back on the air, even if it isn't a huge network presence, at the risk of name dropping (since I already mentioned his name), in the interest of full disclosure, I've known Grease since his early years at WAPE-AM in Jacksonville when the studios were on south U.S. 1 with a gigantic gorilla out front, and you will never find a kinder and more thoughtful man in radio broadcasting than Doug Tracht. If WFAN, CBS and MSNBC had any sense at all, they would syndicate the Grease for a trial 2 week period while Imus is on 'vacation' and then let the public decide.

Imus just might get to take the retirement package by week '3'. ;)

In case you (or any Grease fan) isn't aware of where he hangs his broadcast hat these days, here's the URL:

http://wmet1160.com/schedule/greaseman/index.php

And another link:

http://www.greaseman.org

"AND, as we used to say back in OOOooooollllld Mexico City... AMF!!!"

[Adios My FRiend!]
75 posted on 04/10/2007 9:31:37 AM PDT by mkjessup ('President Rudy!!! = an aborted fetus in every pot, and no guns in any garage!!!')
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To: poncho67

I’m sure NBC had an investigation first and that is why Imus didn’t get suspended the day after the comment.


76 posted on 04/10/2007 9:58:51 AM PDT by art_rocks
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To: mkjessup
Thanks for the URL. The last year I lived in the DC area, he was on an AM station for a short time, but was the only English speaking show they had. One morning I turned on the radio expecting to hear him and another show with a gibberish language was on. I thought that was the end of him.
77 posted on 04/10/2007 10:18:37 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Thebaddog

Here is confirmation that “all” media people feel larger than life. Ifill proclaims herself a role model, Imus thinks he can tear down GM, or build it up, depending on whether or not it sends vehicles to his self serving ranch in New Mexico, where he badgers the governor to suck his .....for some .......in close proximity to his.......wife’s...Oh well.


78 posted on 04/10/2007 4:44:06 PM PDT by billhilly (My former tag line.)
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To: nathanbedford
Political correctness, multiculturalism, laws against hate crimes, and other legal, quasi legal, and extralegal restrictions on freedom of thought and freedom of expression are not the natural and haphazard expressions of a leftist political philosophy, rather they are a calculated attempt to move the fulcrum of political power to the left by changing the rules under which we live.

This is spot on, but the problem as I see it, is WE are letting it happen. Conservatives and likeminded people need to band together and stop this by demanding accountability for the precepts already in effect. We pussyfoot around these issues until pretty soon we're under total socialistic rule because we're too lazy to fight and make crucial stands WHEN we need too.

79 posted on 04/10/2007 5:16:06 PM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: sirchtruth

You see exactly the danger of being keelhauled for saying something that may offend others. Too much PC in this for me to go after the Imus. I might say something that offends some hyper-sensitive twit and I wouldn’t want the same national eruption over nasty words. We’re Americans! Some of our greatest liberties were bought with nasty words.

But, saying that, those who live by the PC sword shall die by the PC sword.


80 posted on 04/11/2007 5:37:01 PM PDT by plangent
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