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Immigration debate sours for illegals
AP on Yahoo ^ | 4/12/07 | Julie Hirschfeld Davis - ap

Posted on 04/12/2007 9:42:14 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: staytrue

Clearly the book (that is there to be thrown selectively) needs to be edited.


21 posted on 04/12/2007 10:11:07 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: staytrue

Thanks for the examples, but I want some good ones to break, like fraud or breaking and entering.


22 posted on 04/12/2007 10:14:13 PM PDT by Laptop_Ron
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To: ConservativeMind

What can you expect? He thinks that borders should be uniters, not dividers. : /


23 posted on 04/12/2007 10:18:15 PM PDT by Politicalmom (I'm confused. The GOP doesn't need social conservatives, but socons made them lose in 2004.)
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To: Laptop_Ron

The basic problem with deporting the illegals is that

US unemployment is low low low.
The stock market is high.
Govt. tax revenue at all levels are high.
The federal budget deficit as a percent of gdp is low.
The state and local govts. are mostly in pretty good shape.
The US crime rate is near 20 year lows.

Convincing people that deporting the illegals will make unemployment even lower, stock market higher, increase tax revenue, decrease govt. spending, and decrease crime even more, THAT IS A TOUGH SELL.


24 posted on 04/12/2007 10:19:10 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: NormsRevenge
1. Deport Illegals.

2. Deport anyone born or raised in California. ;-)

25 posted on 04/12/2007 10:19:19 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: staytrue

The status quo is acceptable to you? at what costs to ordainary folks across the nation who are law-abiding and do go thru the process to migrate legally.

It’s a mess, any way ya cut it, imo.

Do you support the latest pass at comprehensively reforming immigration?


26 posted on 04/12/2007 10:23:47 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... BumP'n'Run 'Right-Wing Extremist' since 2001)
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To: NormsRevenge

Regarding immigration, Bush is merely an errand monkey for the establishment.


27 posted on 04/12/2007 10:24:06 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: Clemenza

HEY!!!

I can’t help where I was born!!! You’ll lose a fellow Fredhead.


28 posted on 04/12/2007 10:24:34 PM PDT by Politicalmom (I'm confused. The GOP doesn't need social conservatives, but socons made them lose in 2004.)
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To: NormsRevenge

... and deal with ANCHOR BABIES as well as making it a FELONY to enter the US illegally!


29 posted on 04/12/2007 10:24:56 PM PDT by Sam Ketcham (Amnesty means vote dilution, & increased taxes to bring us down to the world poverty level.)
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To: Paladin2

Ha-ha, you nerd! ;-)


30 posted on 04/12/2007 10:26:21 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Wake me up when everyone is ready to self-identify as "earthling.")
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To: staytrue

So, we’re a nation of laws—unless letting people break it benefits the country?

Why would I use the argument that deporting the illegals would benefit the economy when the argument that “they’re breaking the law and don’t belong here” should suffice?

For the record, I’m not against temporary work visas. It’s just that if the road to citizenship doesn’t go through Mexico first, it’s amnesty.


31 posted on 04/12/2007 10:29:36 PM PDT by Laptop_Ron
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To: Laptop_Ron

EDIT on last post. Please substitute “economy” for “country” in the first sentence.


32 posted on 04/12/2007 10:30:32 PM PDT by Laptop_Ron
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To: NormsRevenge
the nation's roughly 12 million illegal

First, they need to stop with this LIE! IIRC, in January of 2006 Teddy K said 20 million on a Sunday talk show. That of course was not pounded 24/7 and vanished down the black hole.

Then, right after the '06 elections everyone was using the 20 million figure. US citizens must have started yelling so they immediately went back to the "comfortable" 12 million figure. Liars all! If they say 20, then there is surely 30-40 million here, just as some reports have stated.

33 posted on 04/12/2007 10:30:58 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: NormsRevenge
Tough guano. Cry me a rio.
34 posted on 04/12/2007 10:31:35 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Do you, your company or your country suffer from "AADD"?: "Asian Attention Deficit Disorder")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Same ol bull$hit, same ol song and dance!


35 posted on 04/12/2007 10:31:37 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: SmoothTalker

They have another chance on the communist holiday celebration May 1st.


36 posted on 04/12/2007 10:31:55 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: NormsRevenge

I think the US does want a migrant worker/non citizen class to do a lot of jobs like farm worker, cleaning lady, chicken processing, etc.

I think the ideal solution is a guest worker program with no citizenship and no non emergency benefits.


37 posted on 04/12/2007 10:32:48 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: panzer_grey

EXACTLY!


38 posted on 04/12/2007 10:32:53 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: ConservativeMind
President Bush has lost so much of my respect on this matter.

To GWB: OBL >> GOP

39 posted on 04/12/2007 10:33:31 PM PDT by Plutarch (To GWB: OBL >> GOP)
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To: Just A Nobody

“Then, right after the ‘06 elections everyone was using the 20 million figure. US citizens must have started yelling so they immediately went back to the “comfortable” 12 million figure. Liars all! If they say 20, then there is surely 30-40 million here, just as some reports have stated.”

Yep!


40 posted on 04/12/2007 10:34:26 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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