Posted on 04/17/2007 2:07:27 PM PDT by Bosco
Islamic account of the Biblical sacrifice of Abraham
or the Jewish or the Christian version, are there different versions? I thought Abraham was the common thread for all three?
The ten-page play he wrote was posted on another thread.
The play makes no mention of Islam, and deals with subjects a Muslim would be very unlikely to write about.
Also, none of the people who knew him have mentioned it yet. It’s just about impossible to be a secret practicing Muslim.
I highly doubt he was a convert.
Very good points.
Irish message board?? URL?
I think the debauchery he mentions is the fact that this girl he liked was dropped off at her dorm by a guy at 7am. He was probably sexually frustrated on top of being paranoid and depressed and the fact that other students were getting some made him pretty self rightiously indignant.
I have to admit I don't like the word "convocation", it's an antiseptic word to use when you are trying to describe an event where a whole lot of praying is going on.
Seems to me like there may be something more to this story regarding the killer and the cutters off of heads. Maybe not, but right now I wonder.
The guy came to the U.S. when he was 4 years old. If he was converted to islam it probably happened here.
Abraham is common to all three, but the muzzies substitute Ishamel (Ismail) in place of Isaac as the son Abraham was gonna sacrifice, because Ishmael is the father of the muzzies, and Isaac is one of the Hebrew patriarchs.
OK, how about, “any unversity campus, other than known, conservative Christian run ones.” Is that better?
Personal Disorders, Agresivve behavior and self-mutilation, ECT, Substance-related disorders, Sexual Disorders, Forensic Psychiatry, Sleep Disorders
From the Turkish Association of Psychopharmacology website:
President-elect:
Professor Ismail AK, M.D. Head, Department of Psychiatry, KTU School of Medicine, Trabzon, Turkey
Ismail AK is Professor of Clinical Psychiatry at Head, Department of Psychiatry, KTU School of Medicine, Trabzon, Turkey
He is an experienced on clinical psychopharmacology of schizophrenia and bipolar disorders.
Dr. Ismail Ak is one of the authors of an article about patients with mental disorders, psychotic features, etc.:
As regards pharmacotherapies, 354 (50.2%) were given antidepressants. . . . Among antidepressants, Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) were 72.8%. . . .
This is an abstract of an article co-written by Dr. ISMAIL AK:
Even though all psychiatric disorders do not have the same potential with regard to committing a crime, the number of individuals having psychiatric disorders is gradually going up depending on the increase of crimes and violent behaviors committed in a society. . . . The relation between existence of psychiatric disorder and crime behavior has been significantly emphasized in several earlier studies. In conclusion, it is notable that the rates of committing crime for the individuals with psychiatric disorders are on the rise.
Dr. Ismail Ak is apparently one of the world's leading experts on the psychiatry of antisocial and suicidal behavior, psychotic and bipolar disorders, psychopharmacological therapy, etc.
The young man had been noticed to be disturbed and had been referred to counseling. Dr. Ismail Ak is an expert and author in the particular field most directly related to the guy's disorder.
So it's possible that the writing on the guy's arm said
ISMAIL AK
and the K was written in a way that people *thought* it said
ISMAIL AX
That seems more likely to me than a connection to Moby Dick or to Islamic terrorism.
This is an angle the investigators need to pursue with the school's counseling service, the killer's computer, and Dr. Ismail Ak himself.
Geesh!!! ...no warning signs here???
Doing a parody of McBeth, which condemns the Roman Catholic church, divorce and McDonalds (a symbol for the West) - seems like, if not specifically Muslim, certainly anti Western or anti US, with a millennarian, puritanical bent.
The guy while massacred the Ravers in Seattle was upset at the immorality of the ravers.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/273005_letter07.html
“I hate this world of sex that they are striving to make,” the note says of ravers, a loose-knit community of teens and 20-somethings known for holding huge dances that last into the wee hours. It’s a world in which everyone is accepted unconditionally.
“The things they say ‘and do’ are just too disturbing to me to just ignore and live my life with,” Huff purportedly wrote to his twin brother, Kane. “Kids like me and you are seriously dying over this s-—.” Further down, between the handwritten lines, he added, “They’re raping us.”
This found letter got almost no media coverage and no notice on FR, as far as I can see.
And he wasn’t a Muslim.
Cho seems to be a much better writer with a better vocabulary but the sentiments seem similar.
Actually, let me self correct. His step dad killed his real dad. So, his real dad (that which is not “McDonalds”) was killed by the “McDonalds” step dad.
1) The “Ismail Ax” thing seems to based on ONE source, The Tribune - and the other Chicago paper was the sole source of what turned out to be completely wrong info, that the shooter was a recent Chinese immigrant.
2) I wonder if it was something crudely written that was misunderstood, or even written in Korean letters.
Lou Chang
Her brother he's burning with rage
Lou Chang
Her brother he's burning with rage
I'd like to know what's on his mind
He says hey buddy you're not my kind
Where the nights are bright
And joy is complete
Keep my squeeze on Green Flower Street
© 1982 Freejunket Music ASCAP. All rights adm. by Chappell & Co. Inc. (Intersong Music, Publishers).
Source
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I wouldn't say Cho had any talent as a writer, and his vocabulary and mentality seems to have been about that of a junior high student who spent his time listening to the trashiest of pop entertainment. You should check out his second "play" at: http://newsbloggers.aol.com/2007/04/17/cho-seung-huis-plays/ The mystery is why he was kept on as a student at Va Tech.
Same problems as the rest of the jihadis.
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