Posted on 06/07/2007 8:21:09 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
“Man, you are a stone looney. Try some different meds.”
Yes, wanting people to stand trial when accused of a crime is lunacy. You got me there!
BTW, you never answered Hemmingway’s Ghost. Is it because ghosts are not considered legal residents?
Anyhoo, he wanted to know if the charge had been murder or some such, would you want the employer to face trial? Or does the illegal status of the victim clear them for any and all violations by us REAL citizens?
Because the Constitution doesn't vest (all) rights - those are naturally given.
“While certainly I don’t advocate the abuse of another human being, I have difficulty with the idea of illegals utilizing our court system.”
Translation: While I don’t condone sexual abuse, certain people should not be granted legal recourse.
“While illegals should have human rights, at the same time are they entitled to our constitutional rights?”
Translation: I have not read the constitution, but I’m pretty sure it says what I want it to.
Won’t SOMEONE please help this poor harassed woman “come out of the shadows?”
Oh...what?
(grinning sheepishly): Never mind!
(Saturday Night Live reference)
Jerry, your red herrings and ad hominem attacks are tiresome. You don’t deserve any decent response from me.
P.S. It looks like the amnesty bill may be DOA. AREN’T YOU HAPPY?!!! A great day for Americans!!!
“Jerry, your red herrings and ad hominem attacks are tiresome.”
Really? But they rang so sweetly true. :)
“You don’t deserve any decent response from me.”
This might explain why I didn’t get any.
Look, you’re probably a nice person who I would agree with on a lot of points. I think you let your anger about the illegal immigration issue cloud your vision on this case though.
Saying they should dismiss a sexual harassment case based on the victim’s residency status makes your outlook seem a bit draconian and anti-human.
Agreed. However I believe sexual harrassment lawsuits are a stupid idea. They are a full employment bill for attorneys and are subject to just too much abuse.
We should simply remove any workers' compensation limited liablility from tort lawsuits for intentional infliction of emotional distress and deal with these lawsuits under common law principles.
I have a saying that will probably get me banned:
If you can't stand the heat, go back to the kitchen.
“If you can’t stand the heat, go back to the kitchen.”
Why would that get you banned? I would think being single your entire life is punishment enough.
No jude, the worst thing about illegal immigration is that we have been inundated with millions of people who have no patriotic or historical ties to our distinct American culture and they have taken over our schools and our public facilities and they are literally in one generation transforming this great country into a potential third world bannana republic.
Our country is crowded enough without this uncontrolled influx of people who are stealing our jobs and depressing the wage base of legal immigrants and citizens. These people are not simply doing jobs Americans won't do. They are bringing down the wages so that legitimate Americans can no longer afford to do those jobs.
I used to wash dishes. I used to fry tacos. I used to mow lawns. I used to work in fast food. I used to drive a forklift.
Now I could not get any one of those jobs because I am not qualified.
Do you want to know why?
BECAUSE I CAN'T SPEAK SPANISH!
First you weigh in that women should put up with sexual harassment at their workplaces or get back in the kitchen, now you’re complaining that you can’t get hired to fry tacos or mow lawns.
I can fix your wagon.
I’ll hire you to mow my lawn (under the table, natch.. $4.00 an hour plus all the grass clippings you can eat), but my gay friend gets to come over and sexually harass you.
If you don’t like it, I guess you could always get a real job. You know, one that isn’t basically reserved for pimply teenagers.
In regard to sexual harrassment, that is my point. You can quit. You can get another job. You can kick the guy in the groin. You don't need federal protection. You have common law and worker's compensation protection, yet these sexual harrassment laws turn a friendly flirt into a federal case.
Oh, that reminds me. I used to work in a flower shop and my gay boss did harrass me. I thought it was funny. He wanted me to pose nude for him (he claimed to be an "artist".) He was willing to pay me 10 times what I made as a delivery boy to pose nude for him. He'd bug me about it at least once a week. I'd just laugh at him. It went with the territory.
I hired him to do the flowers for my wedding.
“You can kick the guy in the groin.”
Yes, when sexually harassed, it’s appropriate to open yourself up to assault charges.
“yet these sexual harrassment laws turn a friendly flirt into a federal case”
??
Are you speaking from experience?
“You don’t need federal protection.”
Um, yes you do. Many people do take advantage of their position. It’s very wrong.
Your previous boss sounds like a real @ss.
See post 54.
People just need to grow up and grow a spine.
Well, it’s been fun.. but it’s quitting time and I’ve got to go chat with the fiancee. Since you’re not biting on the lawn offer, I guess it’s up to him to make sure it’s mowed.
He won’t mind too much though. I’ll let him know there’s a little harassin’ in it for him. ;)
Have a good night.
“People just need to grow up and grow a spine.”
I don’t know.. I think there’s a lot to be said for holding people accountable for their behavior.
I did my job and he paid me. The sexual harrassment was free. It gave me something to laugh about.
Except for the fact that he was a bit queer, he was a good boss. I liked working there. But alas, I had to quit to get a better job. Even after I quit, I used to go there and work Mother's day weekend for fun and some extra cash. (Mother's day for the flower business is like Christmas to Wal Mart)
IIRC he probably harassed me then too.
Big deal.
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