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California Councilwoman Faces Deportation for Voting When Not a U.S. Citizen
FOX News.Com via Associated Press ^ | June 24, 2007

Posted on 06/24/2007 4:58:59 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: trumandogz
She is a criminal just like anyone else who commits voter fraud.

To commit fraud requires intent. Not sure I see any intent to defraud here. I think if I had been told my whole life that I was a citizen, I wouldn't have had any reason to suspect otherwise.

41 posted on 06/24/2007 6:06:03 PM PDT by LexBaird (PR releases are the Chinese dog food of political square meals.)
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To: Kaslin
"On the other hand, you are correct. She voted illegally"

I'd say there are mitigating circumstances here. No fraud involved. If I were a judge, I'd give her a pass.
42 posted on 06/24/2007 6:06:03 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Kaslin

Back on the boat, Zoila.


44 posted on 06/24/2007 6:10:54 PM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: Kaslin

She broke the law.

Not prosecuting illegal aliens who break the law entering the US illegally fosters the notion that non-citizens can decide which laws apply to them and which do not.

She may have unwittingly broken the law against non-citizens voting but she still thinks the law doesn’t apply to her.
In her view it is just a ‘’misunderstanding.’’

‘’Meyer said she does not support illegal immigration but she thinks immigration procedures should be changed to prevent misunderstandings.’’

I guess she (like 12 million others) think they get Squatters Rights that trump our laws.

Deport her and any other non-citizen that votes illegally.
They violate the civil rights of citizens by negating the legal vote of a citizen.


45 posted on 06/24/2007 6:12:27 PM PDT by BoneShaker
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"'To be honest with you, I'm scared. How can they just pluck me out of my family, my kids?' the 40-year-old mother of four said in a telephone interview Friday."

...because she's not young and pretty, providing illegal/immoral services to a libertarian boss, or even serving as cheap labor.
46 posted on 06/24/2007 6:13:45 PM PDT by familyop (Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: yorkie
Non-Citizen Voting in Federal Elections:

http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecentersb9dc

Few controls on illegal voting:

http://www.citizenreviewonline.org/nov_2003/analysis.htm

The Scam of Voting by Noncitizens and Felons (Phyllis Schlafly)

http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2004/aug04/04-08-18.html

You've just touched on a subject that makes me very angry. I've done a lot of research on illegal voters, and I believe the GOP lost the House and the Senate because of illegal voters. ACORN is at the center of a great deal of illegal voters.

This is another example of our government writing laws that they NEVER enforce!

47 posted on 06/24/2007 6:19:40 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: Kaslin

That’s a situation I have some sympathy for. If she had been led to believe for her whole life, that she was a citizen, and she is a legal resident, then I think there ought to be something that could be done. It must have been quite a shock to her to find out.

I realize that could open a whole can of worms, and that’s why I favor deporting all illegals now, by the family, even.


50 posted on 06/24/2007 6:33:12 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: BoneShaker
As near as I can tell from the story (and others on line)

1. She came from Cuba with her parents when she was age 1 (around 1967). [I don't think Castro was sending birth certificates along with all refugees!]

2. Her parents and all of her siblings became naturalized citizens.

3. If she never applied for a passport, I'm not sure why she should know she wasn't a citizen. If her parents were, and told her she was, why should she know different?

4. By way of example, lots of folks are citizens because their father was. Suppose you were raised by a family, always told you were their child, born when dad was abroad, and when you're 40, it turns out you were adopted without formalities. So you're not really a citizen. What punishment?

What this story emphasizes is that we are not (so far) a society, like many in Europe, where everybody has an identity card that gives you all of your status and data. Maybe we should be -- a lot of people think so, and a lot think to the contrary. But many things about immigration policy are not so easy because of that fact.

I'm not saying that a lot of other things aren't easy to decide. Buildng the fence is a no-brainer. But exactly how to figure out who gets to examine who is a citizen or not, and in what ways, is not always easy.

PS -- I checked on the town where she was on the City Council -- it's marginally GOP, in San Bernardino county. Her election was non-partisan.

51 posted on 06/24/2007 6:40:11 PM PDT by BohDaThone
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To: trumandogz

Last I checked, Cubans vote Republican, INBD...


52 posted on 06/24/2007 7:40:47 PM PDT by Schwaeky (Just say NO to Union Food (Kroger, etc) and say yes to Home Delivery..)
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To: Schwaeky

Last I checked, Cubans vote Republican, INBD...

mel martinez?


53 posted on 06/24/2007 8:26:09 PM PDT by rolling_stone (same)
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To: rolling_stone

He may be a RINO, but when it comes to Caucusing, the most important part of RINO is the R is still there...


54 posted on 06/24/2007 8:56:46 PM PDT by Schwaeky (Just say NO to Union Food (Kroger, etc) and say yes to Home Delivery..)
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To: Kaslin

I thought they didn’t deport people to Cuba?


55 posted on 06/24/2007 10:13:55 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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