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FDA rebuffs call for aspartame probe
CNN ^ | 06.30.07

Posted on 07/06/2007 9:11:02 PM PDT by Coleus

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To: rxgalfl
Exactly how much water do you have on mind?

12 oz. cans * 20 cans = 240 ozs. of water, or about two gallons/day, every day, in addition to all other fluids. Try that in a hot climate like Florida and your potassium, sodium, etc. levels will drop through the cellar. I have medical problems and am not supposed to have more than a liter of fluids/day (I cheat)

41 posted on 07/06/2007 10:12:18 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (A person who does not want the best for America)
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To: Coleus

The stuff gave me a seizure.


42 posted on 07/06/2007 10:14:16 PM PDT by TBP
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“And in other news, a moose bit your sister.”

....and several butcher’s aprons.

And now, for something completely different.


43 posted on 07/06/2007 10:14:21 PM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: turnrightnow

A test that cuts as far across species as this, is at best a lesson about what not to feed your pet rats. Did you know that onions are a potent health hazard... to cats? Let’s start the onion bans now!


44 posted on 07/06/2007 10:14:48 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I was waiting for the mandatory fit and rolling on the floor. Instead I got a banal reply. Have a good night my artificially sugared FReeper friend.
45 posted on 07/06/2007 10:15:40 PM PDT by rxgalfl
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To: rxgalfl

Personally, I miss cyclamate.


46 posted on 07/06/2007 10:16:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: berdie

What I meant is that Phenylalanine, one of the components of aspartame, is one of 20 amino acids used to form proteins encoded by DNA. It is found in most protein rich foods regardless of whether they are organic or not. Aspartic acid is a non-essential amino acid meaning that our bodies make it from other amino acids.

My personal opinion is that that there are a lot of myths that “health conscious” people believe concerning foods and the effects of small amounts of contaminants and preservatives. This is not to say that individuals should not try to improve the quality of their food intake only that sometimes one can be doing more harm and spending more money based on intentions rather than any real result.
Many people have been misled into taking high doses of Soy products which are very high in estrogen like chemicals which could be especially harmful to men and developing boys. Also ironically most vegetarian and health foods sold in stores are highly processed.

I just believe in a reasonable approach to living and have a distaste for the myth of some kind of pristine back to nature nutritional nirvana which has never existed. (At least not since the garden of Eden)It is amazing to me how quickly people, where nutrition and the environment are concerned, believe the most outrageous pernicious fictions and become such pain in the asses to everyone around them in the process. lol


47 posted on 07/06/2007 10:17:13 PM PDT by Maelstorm (When ideas are considered equal regardless of content, then arriving at truth becomes an accident.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Point well taken. As the population increases the food supply must increase. Most easily aided by chemical control of pests on the crops. There is definite value in control of mosquitoes and other disease carrying insects.

But I don’t believe insecticides are microscopic or incidental to human health.

It’s a catch 22..We have better crops and fewer vermin. We also ingest these life saving measures with the creatures we aim to chemically kill. In the form of run off to water sources, air quality, the food we eat, etc.


48 posted on 07/06/2007 10:18:16 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Umm, I do live in Florida but drinking 2 gallons of water a day is quite extreme (unless you work outside as a roofer, mowing lawns, laying concrete etc). And as far as cheating I am saying to you BAD LCS

Incidentally, I do consulting for a transplant program in So Florida and I cannot begin to tell you the problems we encounter with post-transplant patients which do not obey the fluid regimen.
49 posted on 07/06/2007 10:18:52 PM PDT by rxgalfl
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To: at bay

I drink a lot of caffeine (well not right now since I’m preggers) and I’ve never been hyperactive after drinking a lot of it. I’ve never had a problem with caffeine and sugar. With aspartame I was bouncing off the walls. In fact, if I ate pudding with aspartame, I could immediately feel the effects and crave more. It was like speed. Really weird.


50 posted on 07/06/2007 10:19:01 PM PDT by Evie Munchkin (Democrats - Party of death and taxes)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Do they still make it??????????


51 posted on 07/06/2007 10:20:12 PM PDT by rxgalfl
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To: berdie

If nobody picked and chose between risks every day, we’d all be trapped in our beds paralyzed in fear. I know that one thing that almost all of us want and prize carries a huge risk of cancer... and that thing is a long, long lifetime.


52 posted on 07/06/2007 10:21:19 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Evie Munchkin
If it gives you problems... like if you find you're allergic to corn or peanuts... well like the old doctor said, "don't do that."
53 posted on 07/06/2007 10:23:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: rxgalfl

“Oh, the false sense of security by ordering an extra large Diet Coke at McDonalds along with a tub of French fries. Why bother?”

Well...I do drink my diet cherry pepsi with my favorite 100 calorie balance bar (a pria bar will do as well)

OK...I admit it.
I’m hooked.

Will this article cause me to change my ways?

oooh....I don’t know.


54 posted on 07/06/2007 10:23:59 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Coleus

Well, looks like I’m doomed. :p


55 posted on 07/06/2007 10:24:47 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: Evie Munchkin

“When I was younger I was drinking at least a 2 liter bottle of Diet Pepsi a day and I have some major mood changes every time I consumed it. My family noticed that every time I drank the stuff I would become very hyperactive and mean, almost violent.”

It might also have had something to do with the boatload of caffeine you were drinking alongside the sweetener.


56 posted on 07/06/2007 10:25:37 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Perdogg

“Good thing they don’t export diet drinks from China.”

Where DOES it come from?


57 posted on 07/06/2007 10:26:25 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: rxgalfl

Many “theys” outside of the US border make cyclamate sweeteners. Canada does. The theoretical risks of cancer that were feared because of the chemical structure of cyclamate never came to pass in empirical studies. Almost certainly more people could tolerate cyclamate than can tolerate aspartame.

Fresca simply isn’t Fresca anymore without the cyclamate. Its aspartame twin is simply “off.” A saccharin version would, IMHO, be better than an aspartame version, but that carries its own socio-cultural baggage.


58 posted on 07/06/2007 10:28:11 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“Diet drinks have been a Weight Watchers freebie for decades. Their diets still slim people down.”

The Weight Watcher brand of diet soda is sweetened with Splenda - also called sucralose.

I remember last year there was a Diet Coke brand available with sucralose, but I don’t see it anywhere anymore.


59 posted on 07/06/2007 10:28:16 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Maelstorm
It is amazing to me how quickly people, where nutrition and the environment are concerned, believe the most outrageous pernicious fictions and become such pain in the asses to everyone around them in the process. lol

Spring 1986, Chernobyl accident. That summer, the part of the world where I was (a few thousands miles east of Chernobyl and affected by the fallout) the fruits and veggies came out quite large. I do remember strawberries the size of tangerines. Am I weary following that? Absolutely! Am I being ridiculous by going to the extremes? No. But while my childhood best friend died of a brain tumor years later(which can or cannot be linked to the nuclear accident) I am happy to report no issues at all. It's a random process but ones becomes more aware of certain risks...pernicious or not!
60 posted on 07/06/2007 10:29:32 PM PDT by rxgalfl
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