The Gay Shibboleth - Opposition to homosexual behavior may now be a bar to high office

Christianity Today ^ | August 2007

[freekitty]

It is permissible to critize homosexuality. We are still in America; no matter what the alledged thought police say.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

and nothing prevents us from continuing to do those things.

May I suggest you pay more attention to what is actually happening, both in this country and around the world.

What I meant by "win" was "win the debate." Do you suggest that God is indifferent to the definition of marriage and even sex? He is the Creator you know. I think He has an opinion on the matter or else He owes Sodom and Gomorrah an apology.

[BoxTurtle]

A 1998 study suggested that a homosexual lifestyle, on the average, shortens one’s lifespan by roughly 20 years. It is more deadly than smoking, alcoholism, or drug addiction.

Interesting. Why do you provide the year of the study without mentioning its name - or, more importantly, the author's name. You wouldn't perchance be referencing Paul Cameron's paper "Does homosexual activity shorten life?", would you?

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

While you are quietly unworried because you feel so safe in your own little space, children all around the world are being misled into this homosexual nonsense and told their is no escape once they've started. They are being lied to, sometimes starting in kindergarten. They are being placed in homosexual homes and told it is perfectly normal and good. They are finding themselves in gov't institutions where they are introduced to homosexuality and any effort to lead them out of it is called hate, bigotry and discrimination. They are going to gov't funded group counseling and being exposed to this evil practice. They are going to school and being told that Christian views are discriminatory and bigoted. On and on. We would be winning these ridiculous debates if we had any courage and any love and concern for others.

Yes it would be great to save every soul in America so that laws and decency standards were not necessary. But that is not reality. To act like it is more Christian to ignore evil than to stand up against it is appalling.

Whether we win or lose is not even the main point. Though I stand by my statement that we have the majority opinion on our side regarding homosexuality and we would win the arguments and spare the children of these evils if we only had the courage and the concern. But if we lose we lose. We should not lose becuase we did not try. If we do, we share the guilt.

[Jorge]

IMHO this is a an expected result of the moral decadence of all kinds that's become acceptable in society.

A permissible society like ours is losing or has lost the moral high ground from which to criticize homosexual behavior.

Of course those who have not lost their moral compass should still be permitted to speak out.
They just probably won't ever get elected to a national office.

[beejaa]

“Why is it not permissible to criticize homosexuality?”

Check out “The Overhauling of Straight America,” available on a number of places on the web. The MassResistance web site at http://www.article8.org/docs/gay_strategies/overhauling.htm has highlighted a few interesting parts of the article.

[Carry_Okie]

The early church did not shy away from proclaiming a biblical sexual ethic in the midst of a promiscuous and perverted culture, but we don't have evidence to suggest that licentious Romans said, "See how these Christians hate homosexual behavior." Instead, non-Christians reportedly said, "Look how they love one another."

Roman homosexuality wasn't about love; it was about dominance. The homo-eroticism to which Paul referred in Romans was Greek in character.

[narses]

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[tcrlaf]

“The Stalinists on the Left are getting ready to criminalize political dissent.”

Already happening...

In Canada, Commons bill C-250 will basicly make the quoting from the Bible “Hate Speech” under genocide and hate-crimes legislation.

In the House, Barney Frank presdied over the passage of HR 1592 House which adds gender and sexual orientation to the categories covered by federal hate crimes law.

IF YOU OPPOSE THE RADICAL GAY AGENDA, You will soon be a criminal....

[the invisib1e hand]

I said years ago the leftist death culture was giving up on abortion (having seen their defeat coming) and was pushing the "homosexual agenda."

They'll see defeat on this, too. The more they force the issue, the more the truth will, shall we say, "come out of the closet."

[the invisib1e hand]

IF YOU OPPOSE THE RADICAL GAY AGENDA, You will soon be a criminal....

You ought to be ashamed of yourself for saying this. Are you an American citizen? Do you understand self government, and the role of a citizen in the process? Is this pitiful whine a statement of your refusal to do your part as a citizen?

[Old_Mil]

"Homosexual Rights in Iran"

In the end, the west may fall, and Christianity may fall...but the gay mafia will not prevail. In attacking Christianity, they've made a target of the only religion on earth that would patiently tolerate their evil waiting for them to repent and be saved.

[RobbyS]

Gays are very heavily represented in the media. The board of the NYT, for isnatnce, is supposed to have many gays.

[tcrlaf]

“IF YOU OPPOSE THE RADICAL GAY AGENDA, You will soon be a criminal....
You ought to be ashamed of yourself for saying this.”

REALLY?????
The FACTS say otherwise....
Care to explain why the Editorial Board of the New York Times is called “The Gay Mafia”?

I have no problem with gays, far from it. I DO have a problem with the radical gay political agenda.

[fwdude]

Are there some “insane” voters on the UMC Judicial Council?

[Mrs. Don-o]

Or have we “recently learned” that on the basis of anatomy and physiological function, the male penis was designed to be shoved up the male anus?

[Murray the R]

We will never eradicate abortion, for instance, but good Christians will continue to strive to make it illegal.

Will good Christians strive to make anything illegal related to homosexuality?

[Murray the R]

What would a "win" look like, and how do we know God wants that outcome? Seems to me that He wants only that we remain pure, and proclaim the truth in and out of season ... and nothing prevents us from continuing to do those things.

May I suggest you pay more attention to what is actually happening, both in this country and around the world.

What do you think I've overlooked?

What I meant by "win" was "win the debate."

Thanks for the clarification.

Do you suggest that God is indifferent to the definition of marriage and even sex?

Not at all. If you're saying only that God wants us to strive to win the debate, i.e., proclaim the truth in and out of season as I said, then it seems we agree.

[Murray the R]

We would be winning these ridiculous debates if we had any courage and any love and concern for others.

It wasn't clear from your previous post that "win" meant "win the debate.

[wagglebee]

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